I"ll have to leave that to you and others, I assumed Jed was making a point that Dave didn't understand.
I don't know the details of Mizuno's experiment. On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Gigi DiMarco <[email protected]> wrote: > Jeff, > > I could agree entirely with you. I've have some problems with the internal > and external calorimeter time constants that are too short. But let's go on > and assume that what you say is completely right. > > Now can you tell me where in the Mizuno's results (excel files and > figures) you see this behaviour? I do not see it, so if you tell me which > is the right curve we can discuss about it. > > 2015-01-12 22:58 GMT+01:00 Jeff Driscoll <[email protected]>: > >> Jed is correct, when the pump is turned on and everything reaches steady >> state, (using his example) the pump is putting in 4 watts of power to the >> tubing, the reservoir and the LENR chamber and all these tubes and the LENR >> chamber emit 4 watts of thermal power to the ambient at steady state. Then >> when the LENR experiment is turned on, any delta T can be attributed to the >> LENR device, not the pump (assuming the pump doesn't change speed). >> >> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Gigi DiMarco <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The major result is that we measured 43°C in the pump body very close to >>>> the water so it is really easy to understand that, despite what Jed says, >>>> the pump motor delivers a lot of heat to the water . . . >>>> >>> >>> You are wrong. This is not what I say. This is what Fig. 19 proves. If >>> your graphs show something else, your experiment is different. Perhaps you >>> are using a different kind of pump, or more pressure in the tubes, or >>> perhaps you have confused the effects of falling ambient temperature with >>> rising water temperature, as you did before. >>> >>> In the second paper you wrote: >>> >>> "GSVIT-1) We do not agree at all. The pump was not stopped during the >>> test and, as Rothwell says, we are speaking about a differential >>> temperature increase equal to +2.5°C. . . ." >>> >>> No one said the pump is stopped during the test. It runs all the time. >>> If it were stopped, the test would fail because the heat from the reactor >>> would no longer be collected. >>> >>> >>> The pump power turns out to be about 4 W. >>>> >>> >>> Suppose, for the sake of argument, that is true. And suppose that raises >>> the temperature by about 6°C. (Obviously that cannot be true because >>> nowhere do we see a 6°C elevation above ambient, but let us pretend it is >>> true.) In that case, all of the excess heat calculations must begin at a >>> baseline 6°C above ambient, because the pump is always left on. Therefore >>> this has absolutely no impact on the excess heat measurement. >>> >>> - Jed >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Jeff Driscoll >> 617-290-1998 >> > > -- Jeff Driscoll 617-290-1998
