Eric, I think your statement has a lot of validity. In addition it supports
my idea that large organizations are bad from all points of view and the
advantages they had are now obsolete due to our easy and reliable
information capacity. I will think the banks are very good examples.
European banks were smaller and more specialized and therefore they could
not withstand the market pressure. I lived in Sweden in the 70 is and 80
is. During those twenty years I do not think I wrote five checks. All
business transactions were overnight and electronic. I could not believe
how behind the US banks were. It is amazing that it is still using paper
checks in an envelop carried by US mail at twice the cost of the stamp you
bought. Still takes a week to send money. I think the reason it still is
this way is that some people like to say "the check is in the mail" and
that is impossible with electronic banking.
Jed, I think there are as big hurdles for LENR as for the banks. If big
organizations are ruling we will be behind the rest of the world.
I will admit that my knowledge about science is limited and that I lack the
means to judge about how valid the latest findings are. Encouraging to me
is the tone and the many people working on experiment to show that it is
real. Assuming a commercial product will be available before 2020 (the year
of full vision):), then I will suggest that the implementation of LENR
could be done in five years with small organizations taking the leading
role. If we let the giants handle it it will never happen.
Jed, you say that a micro grid needs to be "highly regulated". The problem
is that we are asking for help from 'big brother' and as he now is in
control he is making sure that his buddies in other similar organizations
get their interests protected. I think we need less regulation. However, I
agree with the notion that having people stringing electrical lines without
enough expertise would be dangerous. I rather saw that decisions about how
where and why to 'string wires' would be determined by the neighbors
interested in a micro grid - using common sense and personal responsibility
for their actions. Another thing is that in order to arrange this micro
grid, which just serve as a insurance against failure of ones own LENR, you
do not need to do anything in many communities as current grid already
exist and instead of 'stringing lines' one need to cut out the transformers.

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On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]>
wrote:

> one point to support your vision jed, no grid, agains what I propose as
> possible, a microgrid, can be found with It, Internet.
>
> if you see internet it is both like a grid with utilities, the internet
> provider, servers, sites, DNS, routers ... and individual resources, PC,
> personal wifinetwork...
>
> ther is no peer to peer wifi that is seriously working, like the microgrid
> I propose.
> people have difficulties to share.
>
> however maybe the sucess of sharing economy, may allow that...
>
> making analogies with those 3 situations would help us to understand the
> problems.
>
> users basically don't want to worry, even if it is expensive.
> either he rent a comodity (taxi, internet, cloud disk, cloud CPU, ) or he
> own an asset (disk, PC, datacenter).
>
> people seldom share resources, if it is not through a consolidated
> thirdparty infrastructure.
>
> now if regulation is a problem, peer to peer seems to be interesting.
> Tor, P2P file sharing, PGP, bitcoin, darknet,...
>
> microgrid could appear if
> 1- dedicated devices are not affordable for one user
> 2- shared devices are too much regulated and taxed to be affordable/usable.
>
> 2 will be probably true untill utilities die...
> 1- is false...
>
> so you are right jed. one (pair) generator is enough... fr one house, for
> one building or even one level/company or one flat.
>
>
> 2015-01-20 15:53 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>:
>
>> Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> To be included in the disadvantages of a new technology are ones
>>> relating to existing regulations and to sunk capital costs.
>>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> It is hard to predict the effect of regulations on cold fusion.
>>
>> Sunk capital costs for equipment and infrastructure can have a large
>> impact on the new technology, or a small impact, depending on
>> circumstances. I believe that the need for new infrastructure will prevent
>> the use of hydrogen automobiles and battery swapping machines. Plug-in
>> hybrid cars have a huge advantage because they can use the existing
>> gasoline delivery infrastructure.
>>
>> Fortunately, sunk costs will not have much impact on cold fusion. There
>> are sunk costs for existing equipment. People will not run out and buy cold
>> fusion cars the moment they come on the market. They will wait until their
>> present automobiles wear out. This will not take long. Automobiles,
>> domestic heating and air conditioning equipment and appliances seldom last
>> longer than 10 or 15 years. The sunk cost of the existing energy delivery
>> infrastructures for electricity, gasoline and natural gas will have no
>> impact on cold fusion, because cold fusion does not need any
>> infrastructure. All the fuel you need is built into the equipment. Or if it
>> needs replacement, the repair man or mechanic can deliver a ten-year supply
>> in the palm of his hand.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>

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