I'm to "incompetent" but it is no hinder for speculations. 

And be
patient with my bad English. 

If there are a hydroton or other
MEGA-ATOM it may form a mega nuclear structure before it brake downs to
stabile nucleus. 

Nuclear structures like that have been proposed
stabile and possible to use for building femtotech and controlled
nuclear matter. 

There was some news about it on Next Big Future. 

For
example a possible proton- neutron linear whisker is proposed. 

Maybe a
PEPEPE.. chain first forms a PNPNPN.. chain and then brake apart. 

Here
are a citation from one of the news. 

_"All of Bolonkin's proposed
femtostructures seem unstable to me. His femto rods or whiskers are like
streams of water which are _ 

_subject to instabilities that cause them
to break into a _ 

_sequence of droplets. Imagine one of his rods
periodically squeezing inward and outward keeping the volume fixed. If
the surface area is _ 

_decreased the perturbation will be increased
and eventually break the rod into droplets."_ 

Links


http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/07/beyond-molecular-nanotechnology-is.html


http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/10/femtotechnology-ab-needles-fantastic.html


http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/01/ben-goertzel-and-hugo-de-garis-have-new.html


http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/05/speculation-on-possible-path-to-passive.html


http://nextbigfuture.com/2013/03/some-links-to-my-work-and-interesting.html


http://hplusmagazine.com/2011/01/10/searching-phenomena-physics-may-serve-bases-femtometer-scale-technology/


Torulf 

On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 16:36:21 +0100, Alain Sepeda  wrote: 

Hi all, 

following different theory discussion, edmund storms theory,
and my modest understanding I am proposing a speculation about LENR.


first of all I am working in the framework of ed storms theory, not as
hydroton, but about the reason that led him to propose hydroton. 
I
don't care what is the animal. 

His key observation is about Iwamura
transmutations, and I match it with many other strange observations :

LENr produce few radioactive products, few energetic gamma, few
neutrons... 

Iwamura observed that in his experiments the fusion of
target elements like Cs was involving an even number of deuterium. 
Even
number of hydrogen is important for symmetry, but the big surpsied is
that between 2-4-6 deuterium , it seems the non radioactive outcome are
prefered 

this make me think that this is not an accident but the
natural target of the phenomenon called LENR. 
Ed storms key idea is
that all happen in an insulated quantum object, of huge size, which
dissipate the energy of fusion or transmutation, BEFORE the
transmutation happen... 

I'm basically incompetent but I propose my
(mis)understanding for review, in the standard model framework (please
no hydrino, supergravitation... this is a game to stay in SM, like
playing chess) 

my story is the following. 

for some reason (self
building from gibbs energy) a big quantum object appears in hydrure
material. 
all particles inside are intricated, and insulated from
outside for some time. 

I propose that you consider that as a
MEGA-ATOM... it is not a planetary system like an atom, but a similarly
insulated quantum object, build from thousands of nucleus and electrons,
a galaxy. 
it have energy level, states, and thus can radiate and absorb
energy like an atom. 
(this is my understanding of ed storms theory, I
invent nothing, at worst I deform) 

my idea is that (this is
questionable) that MEGA-ATOM when created is not at it's bottom level
because it is created from hot atoms, or from random geometry. 
it start
radiating energy, by the smallest transition possible... I propose it is
by quanta much below 100keV level, as it is observed. 
It may also eject
some energetic particles like by evaporation cooling 

the MEGA-ATOM
goes to energy level like -24MeV for deuterium, -6MeV for hydrogen, or
other values for system containing impurity as iwamura observe... 

at
one moment as a MEGA ATOM, because of the geometry change induced by
"cooling" the state a quantum superposition including some fusion. when
the quantum superposition disintricate it is possible that a fusion
became reality, and this correct the loss of energy of the mega-atom.


in fact I suspect that this kind of transition, because the mega-atom
is in debt, is required. when losing intrication, the megaatom have to
propose a new unintricated state that is of lower energy, this mean
fused, or fissioned. 
 It can also be among the allowed low energy
transition. for the megaatom transition from a state where the geometry
is "compact low energy" to a geometry more "as usual" with one fusion,
may be a small transition. 

of course, this fusion will produce the
least possible energy results. 
if it is helium, it won't be excited as
with hot fusion, because the megaatom will have transitioned to a
desexcitated helium before energy of excitation is added to an
excittated helium ready to became tritium and neutron. 

I see many
question in my scenario, that is where I ask for review 

one is if it
is possible for an intricated insulated object to fall spontaneously to
a lower energy level compared to it's non intricated components ? 

one
is how can an intricated object evolve, when getting disintricated,
after being at an energy state which is impossible as it's former
structure, except by nuclear transition ? 

note that I don't ask if
electroweak , strong or any interaction can do it... it is just a
question on any quantum theory... a question on energy state, on
intrication,... 

My idea is if it can explain the strange mystery that
LENr seems to produce among the possibilities, the least radioactive
one. 
If you are very very luck with dices, it probably mean the dice
are loaded. 

ready for review, I won't say peer review, because I'm
incompetent.  

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