I do not believe that adding complexity to the experiment is going to help convince skeptics of the reality of LENR. The plan offered by Alberto is simple, and should be adequate. If not, then there is little need to make further attempts to convince anyone.
I would prefer to see feedback, such as recently observed in Dr. Parkhomov's fine experiment, used on the active device of the dual test. It seems logical that the skeptics would understand that much less input required to achieve the same output temperature would be a valid demonstration of LENR. Input power can be measured accurately and the temperature would be the same in both cases. If the temperature is matched for both devices, then there would be no reason to worry about power output as a function of temperature calibrations being so critical. There is major difficulty in attempting to use the internal core generated heat as the only drive source. When input power from a power supply is required to maintain the output temperature constant, you can always lower that source power when the temperature makes an attempt to thermally run away. This modification to drive based upon output feedback can be used to counter negative resistance behavior. That is apparently exactly what Dr. Parkomov is doing in his latest demonstration. Had he kept the input drive power constant, the output power would have continued to rise and would have destroyed his device. Thus far I have discussed static behavior of thermal positive feedback systems, the latest postings have touched upon the dynamic controls that I hope to talk about soon. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Roarty, Francis X <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Mar 23, 2015 8:32 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Experimental methodology employing two reactors in series Would this employ the output heat of multiple reactors to reduce the required heat from any of the internal heating elements? My thought is any external heat is going to trip the feedback loop sooner and be a wash. Fran From: Alberto De Souza [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 11:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Experimental methodology employing two reactors in series On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Daniel Rocha <[email protected]> wrote: A self feeding with some extra output energy reactor would overcome all this, it's much more convincing and any "magic trick" to input energy into it, like current inductance, can be easily be detected by a magnetometer. It can be used as a black box, not revealing its contents, and all methods of cheating can be checked by any skeptic True. But we need excess heat for that (a large amount, i.e. COP > 3), in addition to the means of using it to efficiently generate electricity to maintain and control the reaction. The methodology I have proposed can be employed tomorrow by MFMP and convince most scientists that we have excess heat. Alberto.
