Bob,
Part of this talk should be called “Hagelstein-uncredited.” One of the more remarkable things about it, aside from the lack of novelty, is that they had already dropped the ultra-low momentum nonsense like a hot potato. Apparently they were ignorant of the large body of work in ultra-low temperature neutrons, until many of us started to post on that niche – pointing out the obvious similarity. How could you miss that? In short, we have to ask if these physicists have more to offer than high level opportunists – hand wavers, as you suggest - trying to edge a foot in the door with talk, talk, talk based mostly on the work of others … as opposed to doing experiments. On vortex at least, we are also basing many comments on the papers and experiments of others, YET we always strive to give full credit for prior work and thinking in the field. And if not, there will be vocal criticism– so we should expect no less from them. For the record, Fred Sparber started talking about surface plasmons in LENR on vortex in 2006 if not before. It is a mistake to credit this to W&L. From: Bob Cook This is an old presentation at CERN (2012). It does have some qualitative pertinence IMHO. However, there is a lot of hand waving about coupling of energies to the loss of mass. Furthermore, Srivastava does not address the forces associated with spin coupling of opposite spin particles--Cooper pairs of H for example--and magnetic fields, nor whether they even come into play in the electron/protons SPP's he proposes. Energy conservation is addressed, however, conservation of spin and angular momentum is avoided, as if it does not come into play in LENR. Concerning the source of energy along the reaction path, for example, in the distribution of the SPP energy to the lattice, is where the hand waving hits its best performance IMHO. I would be happy to hear comments on this from Vorts that do or do not agree. Bob Cook ----- Original Message ----- From: Axil Axil <mailto:[email protected]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkboynxTWR4 Yogendra Srivastava explains the latest version of the Widom-Larsen Theory. At 13:30, the energy coming from the environment of the nanoparticles is guided along the surface of the nanoparticles and form a resonance on their surface. This resonance is transferred and trapped in a conductor isolated but very near the nanoparticules. These elementary currents added to each other form the big current at the output of the device. W & L theory as been moving toward the nanoplasmonic theory of the LENR reaction for some time now. It looks like they are mostly there.

