Bob, There is a pretty good article on Wiki for induction cookers, but a look 
at the patents turns up more than meets the eye in a superficial account. 

 

The obvious part is that there is a Litz wire copper pancake coil inside the 
cooktop, driven by silicon to low to mid kilohertz range – 25-75 kHz. The coil 
has maybe 100 turns, while the bottom of the cooking pot effectively forms a 
single shorted turn. According to Wiki, this forms a virtual transformer which 
steps down the voltage and steps up the current so that the shorted current 
becomes heat - localized in high-resistance steel - while the driving coil 
stays cool. That is fairly straightforward but some designs are more efficient 
than others.

 

So… there is more to the story than simply RF induction. US6956188 to GE 
describes an integrated capacitor, which must be resonant - and other patents 
have clues about special frequencies. JL Naudin and others have claimed that 
they can actually convert one of these devices into a gainful power source, 
using a Tesla bifilar pancake - but his logic is flawed and data is 
misinterpreted. See “Gegene”

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OlLRrTSvYU

 

Anyway, one of these cooktops could probably be converted to drive a LENR 
experiment with efficient power … including heat plus whatever advantages can 
be derived from RF waves (in the sense of Dardik “superwaves”) but on paper it 
should only work up to the Curie point of nickel which is low. 

 

That is what is so interesting about the Ukrainian device – apparently titanium 
hydride works to high temperature, even though it is not ferromagnetic and no 
nickel is used. It would be nice to have more detail on their design. Are they 
burning hydrogen and titanium in air?

 

From: Bob Cook 

 

Jones--

 

You are correct about induction heating.  My youngest daughter recently bought 
a new induction heating stove.  Nothing gets hot but  the bottom of the pot, 
and the water in the pot starts boiling almost immediately.  There is very fast 
and efficient energy transfer to the inside bottom of the pot.  Its not clear 
what the coupling is.  It must be some sort of resonance coupling IMHO.  

 

I can imagine three mechanisms:

 

1. Nuclear magnetic resonance,

 

2. Magnetic resonance from an induction coil with electrons in a conductor,

 

3. Spin coupling of electrons in a magnetic field in the the pot’s metal 
lattice, i.e., direct phonic (thermal) energy  with a resonant magnetic field 
the driver.  

 

I  bet the designers know the mechanism, but do  advertise it, if is nuclear or 
spin coupling.

 

The unit my daughter has an Asian company brand name.

 

Bob Cook

 

From: Jones Beene <mailto:[email protected]>  

Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:50 AM

To: [email protected] 

Subject: [Vo]:The good, the bad and the ugly

 

As Peter laments, there are two extremes in the recent LENR news.

Thomas Clark’s report lucidly states exactly what many of us having been saying 
for months about the flawed Lugano report.

The good news in the provocative site:

http://tet.in.ua/index.php/en/

Which is the Laboratory of Experimental Physics — also known as “TET” — in 
Ukraine and also in Moscow. Curiously, it combines Russian and Ukrainian 
efforts towards alternative energy.

The curious part of this partnership goes all the way back to Chernobyl – 
another joint effort that resulted in catastrophe, but which result could be 
rectified to a large extent if this new effort is successful.

The induction coil seems to offer the most promise to me – especially when the 
copper coil can double as the calorimeter - in the way Jack Cole has proposed. 
The Ukrainians seem to be doing exactly the same thing with the pictured coil 
which is covered in furnace cement. The problem with this approach, as Jack has 
documented on his blog, is capturing a larger proportion of the input energy 
than is normally possible with an induction setup.

I believe this can be done. I have recently seen a report showing that 
induction cooktops, when properly designed at the best resonance level can 
actually apply more net energy from the grid to a cooking utensil than direct 
contact with the traditional resistive heating element – which is a surprise 
since we assume the latter is nearly 100% (it isn’t).

Jones

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