On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> The Li and Al are going to be present in equal amounts in the fuel, but
> only the Al will show in the XRD.  XRD has a pretty small spot and you can
> be pretty sure that the measurement diameter will not include much that is
> not the Ni particle.  OTOH, SIMS is a much bigger spot size and it would be
> easy to pick up stray LiAlH4 in the fuel in the fringes of measurement.
>

nowhere do you see aluminum in the fuel.

>
>
> So, in SIMS, why didn't we see the Al on the Ni fuel powder?  It is
> somewhat of a mystery, but what is reported are the raw counts.  SIMS is a
> micro-sputtering process, and it is possible that the Li atoms sputter like
> crazy, maybe orders of magnitude faster than the Al.  IMHO, you would need
> to see some kind of equalized measurement by SIMS of LiAlH4 (for example)
> to see how it sputters.  In other words, you would like an abundance
> equalization of the count based on the sputter rates.  I suspect there is
> no Li on the Ni in the fuel, but chance particles of the LiAlH4 in the
> vicinity that are sputtered and the Li just sputters orders of magnitude
> faster than anything else.  The Li counts are somewhat of a mystery, but
> not a compelling one.
>

table 1 shows a lot of lithium as measured in tha same way as the ash. The
lithium is 1/3 the amount as the ash. This lithium must have been added by
a fuel preperation process.

>
> There is extremely little C in the system.  The C that shows up is
> primarily from contamination by the conductive black tape to which the
> powders are adhered to place them in the XRD or SIMS instruments.
>

the last line of the Lugano report said that there ws a large amount of
carbin in the fuel that when away in the ash.

>
> Who knows in the story of the Fe?  I can guess that the Fe could have gone
> in as nanopowder in the fuel and wouldn't have been noticed as a "particle"
> in the SEMs because of its small size.  The nano Fe may dissolve in the
> molten Li-Al, and upon cooling, condense as a larger particle.  If I were
> adding Fe to the mix, I would be inclined to add it as a nanopowder to help
> insure its dissolution in the molten Li-Al.
>

There was not eveidence that Li-Al formed.
The purity of the lithium on the surface of the nickel particle does not
support the idea of element transport by lithium metal: iton or aluminum.
Lithium was  the only liquid at play at reactor temperatures.


>
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The Lugano report said that the nickel particle varient was the same
>> particle kind and the fuel was very find grained with a gray color.
>>
>> "All of the Ni becomes quickly surface coated with liquid Li-Al-H.  "
>>
>> Not so. The nickel particles are covered by pure lithium from the fuel
>> (see below). No aluminum is found in the analysis and the lithium coat is
>> very thiin and uniform since the nanowire coat looks crip and sharp.
>>
>> The iron particle was not in the fuel to begin with. It must have formed
>> by some accretion process. The iron might be a transmutation product of
>> carbon, Iron was present in the fuel. There was a large amount of carbon
>> found in the fuel but none found in the ash.
>>
>> The liquid lithium may carry iron is a desolved form to condense in a
>> large particle. But no iron is found on the nickel particle so that speaks
>> against ion transport by liquid metal.
>>
>> The purity of the lithium on the surface of the nickel particle does not
>> support the idea of element transport by lithium metal, the only liquid at
>> play at reactor temperatures.
>>
>> Figure 9 shows a large amount of lithium on the nickel particles IN THE
>> FUEL. Rossi coated the nickel with lithium in the FUEL. Replicators do not
>> do this. They use untreated nickel powder. Have you all missed this?
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Note that there are many optimizations of carbonyl processing designed
>>> to produce, in particular, long strand connected particles with high
>>> surface area optimized for nickel metal hydride battery performance.  I
>>> suspect that Rossi used a standard variant of this process that is
>>> available COTS.  It is well known that Rossi has a history of using the
>>> Vale T255 grade - a jar of it was seen in one of his videos.  It appears
>>> that in the Lugano fuel, the T255 was not used, but the Ni was probably
>>> another carbonyl variant.
>>>
>>> At high temperature (>300C) and in the presence of H2, the oxide readily
>>> is stripped from the Ni particle surface and other metals readily wet to
>>> the clean Ni surface.  As the temperature continues to rise, the liquid
>>> Li-Al-H foams and froths as it releases its hydrogen.  All of the Ni
>>> becomes quickly surface coated with liquid Li-Al-H.  Much of the fine
>>> nanoscale Ni features dissolve in this metal and reach an equilibrium of Ni
>>> (~5%) dissolving into the melt AND condensing out of the melt back onto the
>>> particle surface.  There could be a type of "co-deposition" of the Ni
>>> taking place with simultaneous deposition of Ni-H or with hydrogen anions.
>>>
>>> Also taking place at the same time is the sintering of the Ni.  Wherever
>>> particles touch, they will grow together, and pull together into a more
>>> compact form.
>>>
>>> There is a tremendous amount of alumina present in the form of tubes and
>>> cement.  It is hard to ascribe the alumina particle as part of the ash - it
>>> is probably just debris.
>>>
>>> The same cannot be readily said about the iron particle.  Why such a
>>> large particle would be useful in the fuel is not clear, nor is it clear
>>> what happens to the iron in the liquid Li-Al (I am not a chemist).  Li and
>>> Fe do form compounds such as LiFePO4.  Perhaps some percentage of the Fe
>>> dissolves into the liquid Li-Al-H and enhances the liquid state reaction in
>>> some way.  Perhaps it participates in the co-deposition on the surface of
>>> the Ni to enhance the liquid-solid metal interface LENR reaction.  It is
>>> probably naive to think the large Fe particles in the fuel are there by
>>> chance, and probably also unreasonable to think they wouldn't dissolve in
>>> the very active liquid metal environment.  Rossi is known to have used Fe
>>> in his low temperature eCat fuel.
>>>
>>> Bob Higgins
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The nickel particles grains looks like they have moved around under the
>>>> influence of some EMF stimulation and have found each other. Electrostatic
>>>> abreaction can do this. There should be a strong dipole based electrostatic
>>>> attraction at work that takes advantage of the apparent EMF induced
>>>> vibratory particle movement in the fuel mix. It looks like the lithium
>>>> never recombines with the aluminum at 400C and above having found a home on
>>>> the surface of the Nickel particles, covering all the prticles completely
>>>> in a very thin layer.
>>>>
>>>> The aluminum forms it own particle as shown the formation of a huge
>>>> luminum oxide particle of over a 120 microns in length. I wount’t thing
>>>> this could happen with the aluminum not at its melting temperature.
>>>>
>>>> The iron particle is truly large being some 300 by 100 microns in size.
>>>> How could this particle be formed if it was not in the fuel to begin with.
>>>> The fuel was observed to be very fine grey particles. 300 microns is not
>>>> fine powder.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> in 8. fuel Analysis it states:
>>>>>
>>>>>  The fuel contains natural nickel powder with a grain size of a few
>>>>> microns.
>>>>>
>>>>> so the nickel must move around at tempertures where lithium is liquid.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I misunderstood the particle analysis in the Lugano report, On page
>>>>>> 50 of the Lugano report, I just realized that the nickel fuel particle 
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> a hugh natural abundance of pure lithium content. Its size may not have
>>>>>> changed between when it was fuel through the time that it became ash. 
>>>>>> It's
>>>>>> huge. Consistently, Table 1 also shows a lot of lithium in the fuel. This
>>>>>> particle configuration is not consistence with the commensally availible
>>>>>> nickel particles used by replications. That stuff is about 5 microns
>>>>>> average and contains lots of carbon but no lithium. Rossi has somehow
>>>>>> processed the commensally available particles to add lots of lithium. Did
>>>>>> Rossi give his COTS nickel particles some sort of lithium bath in a fuel
>>>>>> fabrication process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In figure 3, there is lots of carbon in particle 1. But in figure 9,
>>>>>> there was none. How can that be? The fuel should contain lots of carbon.
>>>>>> Why does fig. 9 not show any? Both types of test should have shown 
>>>>>> carbon,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The nickel particles are huge at about 100 microns, There are a
>>>>>> number of them in the micrograph (a) on page 44. It is unlikely that 
>>>>>> nickel
>>>>>> particles can move around much in a particle fuel mixture with lithium
>>>>>> aluminum hydride powder. So how could they gather together in an
>>>>>> aggragation of such large numbers unless they came into the fuel mix as 
>>>>>> 100
>>>>>> Micron particles to begin with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If anybody has an explanation I am willing and able to be educated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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