May the muons come from LENR in the substrate, initiated by the
Rydberg mater, 

not from the Rydberg mater it selves. Its may be a kind
of HAD. 

On source for muons may be pion-decay. Pion-exchange is a part
in nuclear reactions and 

have been suggested by Takahashi. (side 574)


_http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedl.pdf_ 

But the
Pions in nuclear reactions are virtual particles. I know if a virtual
particle can be real. 

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:09:56 -0400, Axil Axil 
wrote:  
There are indications that Muons are extended in there
lifetimes by Rysberg matter. The muons are produced for hours and days
after the Rydberg matter is exposed to light. 

As referenced from the
HolMlid paper as follows: 

" The sources give a slowly decaying muon
signal for several hours and days after being used for producing H(0).
They can be triggered to increase the muon production by laser
irradiation inside the chambers or sometimes even by turning on the
fluorescent lamps in the laboratory for a short time." 

 But in the
experiment, the ability to extend the lifetime of muons is not open
ended in time. There is a reduction of muon detection over time. If the
ability for Rydberg matter to extend the lifetime of muons was open
ended, the count of detected muons would reach a stable condition since
cosmic muons arrive at a relitivly constant rate. . 

I believe that
this ability to extend Muon lifetimes is rooted in the coherent
superconductive nature of Rydberg matter. 

Furthermore, the mean energy
of cosmic muons reaching sea level is about 4 GeV. Muons, This energy
level is higher than the levels seen by Holmlid in his experiment. This
implies that the muions seen in the experiment were produced locally by
Rydberg matter.  

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jones Beene 
wrote:

 To paraphrase what Bob has said and cited, there is little
possibility of a spin problem, when it is  proposed  that the SPP can
extend the lifetime of muon s  (as opposed to creating them from
nothing) . 

I think that we all agree that  "extending the lifetime" of
a catalytic particle like the muon, where there is already a flux coming
from the natural source - is functionally identical to "making" them
anew. In either case, a higher population accumulates. Since any
interaction with protons would happen within the geometry of the strong
force, it is subject to QCD, and consequently giga-eV are in play, so
the source of energy is no mystery. Proton mass is not quantized. 

In
the end, until Holmlid's experiment is better explained as something
other than detection of muons in a situation where SPP are acting on
dense hydrogen, he should be given benefit of the doubt. No? 

This
would mean that a valid, if not intuitive, explanation for the thermal
anomaly in the glow-type reactor (incandescent reactor) involves muons
interacting catalytically with protons, where the muons appear to be
either created from the reaction, or else do not decay as normal,
following the reaction. This scenario will include a thermal anomaly
which does not involved gamma radiation. 

This M.O. leaves open three
possibilities for explaining the thermal anomaly - one which is covered
by Storms. He suggests that protons fuse to deuterium, despite the spin
problem, and lack of evidence in the ash. Another possibility is that
SPP formation is inherently energetic - but this is unlikely since SPP
are seen in optoelectronics with no energy gain. My suggestion is
simpler and based on the solar model. It suggests that the catalyzed
fusion reaction happens but is instantly reversible, due to Pauli
exclusion. Excess energy derives from conversion of a portion of proton
mass to energy via QCD during the brief time when the diproton exists as
a helium-2 nucleus, before reverting to two protons and a renewed muon. 


Until there is evidence of deuterium in the ash we have an ongoing
debate in which the physical evidence favors one argument over the
other. 

FROM: Bob Cook   

Eric-- 

Note my comment to Jones before I
read your questions. 

Bob 

FROM: Eric Walker [2]   

Jones Beene
wrote: 

 D+D + muon → helium-4 + muon (instead of gamma) 

… where the
fist muon can be a cosmic muon which can catalyze a reaction and then be
rejuvenated, renewed or replaced by the same fusion reaction that it
catalyzes.  

The muon is a "heavy electron" with a short life, but now
we can surmise that it can have its lifetime greatly extended as part of
the catalysis. The probability for this to occur is larger than zero,
but how large? … "Maybe it's pretty high" says Byrnes. Can it explain
the lack of gamma, as well? Probably. But now, as we are learning - this
rebirth effect will be more robust with SPP and fractional hydrogen. 

A
muon could possibly carry away as kinetic energy the energy that would
otherwise go to a gamma. But if we're talking about a single muon, how
do you propose that the spin of the missing photon is conserved? 

Eric


 

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