It takes many TeV to show the Higgs - not TeraWatts.  A 1.0 TeV particle
only has 1.6e-7 joules of kinetic energy, but that energy is in a single
particle and can create a TeV event in a collision.

A TW laser will not really help.  The individual laser photons are only eV
level, and a TW laser would simply apply a lot of photons in approx. the
same place at approx. the same time.  If the probability of a photon
interaction is X, where X is less than 1, then the probability of a
simultaneous interaction with 2 photons is on the order of X^2.  The
probability of simultaneous interaction with 10^9 photons is on the order
of X^10^9 - a really small number.  If  you had a condensate and
simultaneously absorbed something like 10^9 photons you may get somewhere,
but the problem is that before that happens you have probably already
absorbed 10^6 photons and have completely destroyed your condensate.
Actually the condensate may be completely destroyed by having absorbed a
much smaller number of photons.

I am more likely to explain muons seen by Holmlid as having been a mistaken
ID.  But I haven't concluded that yet - I am still digesting his papers.
It is a long chain of experimental evidence.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bob,
>
>
>
> Good analysis. Subnuclear binding energy is significantly higher than
> nuclear binding energy, in general. As we know, it takes many terawatts to
> show evidence of the Higgs boson. After that, we must bootstrap power into
> energy to make this happen.
>
>
>
> Fortunately – terawatt pulses are (or will be) available with moderately
> costly lasers. Here is a story on a 10 terawatt laser for the well-equipped
> garage lab …
>
>
>
> http://www.slashgear.com/10-terawatt-laser-fits-on-a-desktop-04300268/
>
>
>
> You need high power to start things. After a high power laser pulse starts
> a reaction, the energy in play for the next round (for MMDD to work in this
> circumstance) – is limited to 24 MeV per incidence. That level is
> significant, but it may not be enough - without some kind of follow-on
> process, like a limited chain reaction, to add continuity.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to find further support for this alternative, but basically –
> if one can show that a 24 MeV photon can dislodge a quark in a situation
> where the strong force can be harnessed to do the rest, then maybe the
> concept will go somewhere.
>
>
>
> Otherwise – how do we explain the muons seen by Holmlid? My fear is that
> they are measurement error, but until that is determined, this suggestion
> of muon chain reaction –MMDD - is a an alternative to consider.
>
>
>
> *From:* Bob Higgins
>
>
>
> While this is interesting speculation, I have come to assess probabilities
> of of heretofore unknown reactions based inversely on binding energy.  If
> we look at molecular binding energy, it is less than atomic binding.
> Nuclear binding energy is greater than atomic binding.  Sub-nucleon binding
> would have to be even higher energy than nuclear.  Between each of these,
> there seems to be a factor of somewhere between 10^3 and 10^6 in binding
> energy.  With nuclear binding in the MeV range, sub-nucleon binding would
> be in the GeV-TeV range.  These binding characteristics are part of the
> nature of the stable universe.
>
>
>
> So, to me, the probability of LENR being related to shenanigans in
> sub-nucleonic physics is something like 10^3-10^6 less likely than
> something happening in nuclear physics.
>
>
>
> With sub-nucleonic binding in the GeV-TeV range, how can something like a
> laser with photons in the eV range have an effect?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> MMPD .... Muon Mediated Deuteron Disintegration
>
> The work of Leif Holmlid and others has opened up the possibility of 
> understanding
> what appears to be a new kind of nuclear reaction – a limited type of chain
> reaction which is not fusion nor fission. The result of this reaction is
> the complete disintegration of deuteron into quarks -- and then into muons.
> The continuing reaction is propagated and catalyzed by muons before they
> decay. Most of the net energy of the reaction is lost in the form of
> neutrinos, but the fraction which is thermalized is still significant.
>
> This nuclear reaction is dependent on the prior formation of a population
> of “ultra-dense deuterium” which is an isomer of hydrogen which forms as
> a 2D (two dimensional) layer on selected surfaces. The densification
> process has been recognized for many years and rigorously described in the
> important paper from 2009 of Nabil Lawandy entitled “Interactions of
> Charged Particles on Surfaces.”
>
> www.*lenr*-*canr*.org/acrobat/LawandyNMinteractio.pdf
> <http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LawandyNMinteractio.pdf>
>
> Individual deuterons are bosons which can occupy the same quantum state,
> so long as their electrons are delocalized. This delocalization of
> electrons is the key feature of ultra-dense deuterium, which becomes a
> condensate at elevated temperature, thus allowing this novel reaction.
>
> Upon application of a laser pulse which irradiates the condensate, a few
> muons will be emitted which then proceed as a limited chain-reaction to
> catalyze further reactions. In this reaction of relatively cold deuterons,
> gamma emission cannot proceed, and fusion to deuterium is suppressed in
> favor of complete disintegration of protons and neutrons into quarks.
>
> The excess energy which would normally be expressed as very energetic
> gammas is internalized to dislocate quarks from the bound state. Almost
> immediately, quarks decay into muons – which have a greatly increased
> lifetime (but still short) and muons are capable of catalyzing and  
> propagating
> the further continuity of the reaction in a way reminiscent of nuclear
> fission of uranium (in which neutrons are the mediator). Most of the net
> energy of this reaction is lost to neutrino formation - but thermal gain
> is still possible.
>
> More details to follow…
>
> Jones
>
>
>

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