When Holmlid.s experiments on LENR get out, there is some months of maybe a
year, its implications are going to blow the tops of of many close minded
heads. I detect some panic setting in here even among the vorts. I will
watch you with great anticipation and see how you will cope with the new
reality.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:56 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Perhaps it is as simple as what you suggest CB, but does that explain
> every case?  Can we be confident that there are no future particles to be
> discovered that behave in a different manner although they have similar
> spins?  If not, then why call it something fancy like the Pauli exclusion
> principle instead of just spin states?   I suspect a more complex
> underlying cause exists.   Do you suppose I am becoming too skeptical?
>
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CB Sites <[email protected]>
> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 12:48 am
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:slide deck for ultradense hydrogen / Leif Holmlid
>
> Dave,  Doesn't the Pauli exclusion principle come about from the quantum
> mechanical magnetic moment of the particle's spin state.  That would seem
> to be a physical attribute of the particle and not something that can
> easily be wiped away.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:39 AM, CB Sites <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Eric.   There are a lot of interesting ideas presented in that
>> slide show, many of the ideas I've seen commented on here.  In one of his
>> last slides he mentions theoretical solutions, one being multibody fusion
>> hinting at a Chubb's style n-body fusion.  Conceptually I've always found
>> the S & T Chubb line of theory for cold fusion to be elegant and plausible.
>> There is no reason why N-body solid state quantum mechanics can't apply to
>> hydrogen in metal like it does to electrons in a metal. Quantum band states
>> of H on Ni have been demonstrated (as a surface effect). *Sorry I don't
>> recall the 1980's paper*  I think it was in Science.
>>
>> Anyway, as new experimental developments have come about, the solid state
>> concepts applied to protium/metal make their theories less applicable. The
>> Rydberg atomic fusion process would seem interesting if not so far
>> fetched.  Maybe if I understood the quantum mechanics of how a Rydberg atom
>> formed in a metal lattice at temps above room temperature. And then how to
>> prove it.  I think I need to understand the theory a little more.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:52 PM, CB Sites <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I found that to be a very interesting slide show.  Is there an
>>>> audio/video track of the lecture to go with it?
>>>
>>>
>>> That is from HyperPhysics, a Web site authored largely by Rod Nave, now
>>> a retired physics professor from Georgia State University.  There is no
>>> accompanying audio or video that I am aware of.  It's inspired by the old
>>> HyperCard program.  I have found it a very useful site.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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