Significant change to our understanding of physics is likely to occur Axil, the 
question is when?

Dave

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 2:08 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:slide deck for ultradense hydrogen / Leif Holmlid



When Holmlid.s experiments on LENR get out, there is some months of maybe a 
year, its implications are going to blow the tops of of many close minded 
heads. I detect some panic setting in here even among the vorts. I will watch 
you with great anticipation and see how you will cope with the new reality.


On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:56 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote:

Perhaps it is as simple as what you suggest CB, but does that explain every 
case?  Can we be confident that there are no future particles to be discovered 
that behave in a different manner although they have similar spins?  If not, 
then why call it something fancy like the Pauli exclusion principle instead of 
just spin states?   I suspect a more complex underlying cause exists.   Do you 
suppose I am becoming too skeptical?

Dave

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: CB Sites <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 12:48 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:slide deck for ultradense hydrogen / Leif Holmlid




Dave,  Doesn't the Pauli exclusion principle come about from the quantum 
mechanical magnetic moment of the particle's spin state.  That would seem to be 
a physical attribute of the particle and not something that can easily be wiped 
away. 
 



On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:39 AM, CB Sites <[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks Eric.   There are a lot of interesting ideas presented in that slide 
show, many of the ideas I've seen commented on here.  In one of his last slides 
he mentions theoretical solutions, one being multibody fusion hinting at a 
Chubb's style n-body fusion.  Conceptually I've always found the S & T Chubb 
line of theory for cold fusion to be elegant and plausible. There is no reason 
why N-body solid state quantum mechanics can't apply to hydrogen in metal like 
it does to electrons in a metal. Quantum band states of H on Ni have been 
demonstrated (as a surface effect). *Sorry I don't recall the 1980's paper*  I 
think it was in Science. 


Anyway, as new experimental developments have come about, the solid state 
concepts applied to protium/metal make their theories less applicable. The 
Rydberg atomic fusion process would seem interesting if not so far fetched.  
Maybe if I understood the quantum mechanics of how a Rydberg atom formed in a 
metal lattice at temps above room temperature. And then how to prove it.  I 
think I need to understand the theory a little more.






  








On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote:


On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:52 PM, CB Sites <[email protected]> wrote:


I found that to be a very interesting slide show.  Is there an audio/video 
track of the lecture to go with it?   


That is from HyperPhysics, a Web site authored largely by Rod Nave, now a 
retired physics professor from Georgia State University.  There is no 
accompanying audio or video that I am aware of.  It's inspired by the old 
HyperCard program.  I have found it a very useful site.


Eric

















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