dirac said that the partner of the electron had  negative mass. This
bothered people so Feynman said that the positron was just a negative
particle going backward in time. This concept of going back in time is
important somehow.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
wrote:

> You ask a very good and hard question.  As an EE, I find much of Hotson's
> description much more satisfying that what I was taught in school.
> However, I wish Hotson was still around (now deceased) so that I could
> visit him to come to a greater understanding of his theory.  He describes
> that the negative energy sea a is mass-less condensate of epos.  When the
> epos form their DDL-like tiny orbits around each other, the Dirac solution
> for the orbit represents a "spinor field" that I find hard to grasp.  In
> the spinor field, the particles have to orbit 720 degrees to get back to
> where they start.  As the electron orbits the positron, the two switch
> roles part way around.  Married together with his concept of discretezed
> time, the result is an orbit that looks more like two particles on the end
> of a string that just blink back and forth between being electrons and
> positrons.  As part of this all, he has a description of the origin of
> inertial mass that I cannot entirely understand yet.
>
> The net effect is that, yes, the inertial mass is used up in the dual
> photons of 511keV in transition to become epos, but that is not the total
> energy of the particles - they just gave up their inertial mass into energy.
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:01 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Bob
>>
>> Why does the electron charge to mass ratio come out in support of it
>> having 511 keV of energy if it really has much more?  That seems
>> contradictory.  The way I understand it, all of the energy has a mass
>> equivalent.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
>> To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sun, Oct 25, 2015 3:05 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:slide deck for ultradense hydrogen / Leif Holmlid
>>
>> That is the energy given off to send the normal space positronium atom
>> into a DDL-like minimum energy orbit.  When the electron-positron orbiting
>> pair becomes in the DDL orbit (orbital radius about the diameter of a
>> proton), it becomes undetectable and it is part of the negative energy
>> sea.  It is still polarizable and it is the displacement of the epo sea
>> that provides electromagnetic "displacement".  According to Hotson, the epo
>> (in the DDL orbit) has no inertial mass - for explanation of the origin of
>> mass you will have to read Hotson's papers.  The epo sea IS the inertial
>> mass-less ether.
>>
>> Note that the 511keV is NOT the total energy of the electron.  When the
>> spin energy of the electron is included, the total energy is over 16MeV.
>> The 1022keV (two photons of 511keV each) is the energy given up to
>> transition to the DDL state epo from the positronium atom.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Regarding electrons and positrons in particular, Hotson rightly points
>>>> out that these two particles are fermions.  As fermions, they are forbidden
>>>> to be in the same place at the same time, and so cannot annihilate. Instead
>>>> of annihilation, they fall into orbit around each other.  When (if) they
>>>> reach a DDL orbit, the become a part of Dirac's negative energy sea.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If positrons and electrons do not annihilate, where do the two
>>> oppositely-travelling 511 keV photons come from as a result of the activity
>>> of beta plus emitters?  (Note that 511 keV is the mass of an electron or
>>> positron.)
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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