In answer to your original question Axil, could this be "why LENR produces Neutral Kaons"? 1. Nickel 62 or Iron 58 acts as a source of long life K0 through some kind of external stimulation to greater than 496 MeV, probably collective and entangled stimulation, possibly from lasers, Phonons, magnetic stimulation from SPP etc. (perhaps resonance of the Nucleus to particular quantum states is required for this?) 2. The long life low Kinetic Energy K0 mesons which are neutral have a half-life of 51 ns and contain a balanced combination of +/- strange and down quarks then maybe get absorbed by other nuclei including UDD and others. 3. The absorbed K0 in the nuclei interaction with other nucleons in the Nuclei possible changing their type or leading to Nucleon disintegration and generation +/- Kaons including the original s quarks from the K0? Can this happen? Has this kind of behaviour ever been observed with K0 interactions with Nuclie in other experiments? 4. Meson generation from the decay of +/- Kaons and 0 Kaons and further decay chain through muons to electrons as described by Holmlid 5. Meson or Muon mediated fusion in Kaonic, Pionic or Muonic Atoms and Nucleon disintegration giving enough energy to stimulate a source (phonon or SPP) to allow further K0 production in Ni. The initial source to stimulate the original K0 would need to be accounted for. When we have the Laser could it stimulate this?Without the laser would SPP perhaps present in the UDD or phonon stimulation be able to stimulate a resonance to 496 MeV in the Fe58 or Ni62 Nuclei? If neutral Kaons are generated from Ni62 and Ni58 how do we account for LENR in Pd and Pt systems? Would we need Fe and Ni contaminants or would some Kaons still be generated and tunnel in these nuclei? Or could they be generated but interact with the nucleons within their parent nuclei, and cause nucleon disintegration and generate +/- K and locally. Just some thoughts probably there are still holes in the idea.
From: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:28:54 +0100 Regarding my earlier Comments : " for a single K 0 to form this would imply a nucleus of heavier than Nickel…." "*** If I understand correctly there are no sufficiently heavy elements available in Holmlids experiment for Kaons to form this way? …" This is not strictly correct. Something new and potentially significant has come up: In fact Nickel 62 and Iron 56 and 58 have higher binding energy per nucleon than average about 8.79 MeV per nucleon. (I was previously assuming average natural mass numbers and 8 MeV per Nucleon) Ni 62 binding energy = 62 * 8.7945 = 545 MeVFe 58 binding energy = 58 * 8.7922 = 509 MeVFe 56 binding energy = 56 * 8.7903 = 492 MeV Ni 62 and Fe 58 would both therefore be sufficient for containing a K0 Meson 496 MeVFe 56 on the other hand would just fall short. Fe is present in Holmlids experiment as part of the catalyst to form UDD. Ni is also present in Holmlids experiment as the target for the laser. This could be very important since the energy of the K0 is very close to the maximum binding energy, it should be relatively easy to quantum tunnel out of the nucleus within its half life. Could the Ni62 in the target (and maybe Fe58) be acting as a source of K0 long mesons that then interact with other nuclei in particular the UDD. Note like neutrons K0 long have neutral charge so could easily be absorbed by other nuclei, but also have a half-life of about 51 ns before decaying to pions . These K0 could potentially interact with low energy impacts with any other as well as the UDD, potentially leading nucleon changes or disintegration in those nuclei. Perhaps the energy released in these K0 interaction and/or associate muon or meson assisted fusion is sufficient to stimulate further K0 production in other Ni62 or Fe58 Nuclei. From: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:56:52 +0100 Yup I agree with you Axil although I am no expert on these matters I also don't know of anyway they could be generated from the protons. I will be interested if someone has an explanation for that. Just to expand on the strange quark pair generation idea: This is why I was wondering that if sufficient energy is applied if a strange anti strange quark pair can be manifested. If so quarks do not exist in isolation so they would normally need to be contained in a meson. Unlike Pion 0 which contain + and - up quarks or + and - down quarks I do not see such a meson for just + and - Strange quarks. (Does any one know if one exists)? There are a few other Mesons however might be applicable. These are the eta meson, the eta prime meson, the short K 0 and the long K 0. All these Mesons are neutral and are their own anti particle. All these Mesons contain strange mixed up combination of + and - pairs of quarks the eta contain Up, Down and Strange quarks, the short and long K0 contain Down and Strange quarks. I'm not exactly what they mean in physical terms. The eta and eta prime Mesons are heavier than the Kaons and have very short half lives. The short kaon also has a short half life. The long Kaon however has a longer half life of 51 ns. (The strange combinations of quarks in eta and K0 mesons can be found in the Meson list in this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mesons) Since K0 short and Long are their own anti particle I wonder if they can be generated individually at lower energy than required for + - Meson pairs i.e 497 MeV for K0 long rather than 996 MeV for +/- Kaon pairs. I should say that if this process is to work either it would need to be contained with in the nuclei. For particles the mass of Kaons this implies quite heavy Nuclei otherwise the energy would exceed the nucleus binding energy, for +/- K pairs it would imply nuclei heavier than Antimony are required (perhaps Pt if available would full fill this) for a single K 0 to form this would imply a nucleus of heavier than Nickel. I suppose one could imagine a resonant or entangled process where the energy was raised and distributed across several nuclei, thereby liberating Kaons from all the nuclei at the same time. If heavy nucleons are available in Holmlids experiment this could lead to a test of the idea by removing elements heavier than Nickel if we stopped seeing Kaons (and maybe only see pions onwards), it could demonstrate that maybe this process was in action. HOWEVER: *** If I understand correctly there are no sufficiently heavy elements available in Holmlids experiment for Kaons to form this way? If I remember right there are no elements heavier than Nickel listed? The catalyst I think only contains Potassium, Iron and Oxygen. Is the is correct? If so it implies another process must take place. *** I think in the current consensus this leaves effectively two possibilities: 1. Concurrent Nucleon disintegration or annihilation with the production of particles also including strange quarks, if so an explanation is needed as to how down quarks can change to strange quarks for example. 2. Axil's SPP Analogue black hole Hadron evaporation. It will be amazing if it can work that way, i wonder if there is a particular absolute proof way to observe that , such as actually observing an form SPP and seeing Kaons come directly as a result of it? I suppose we will have to wait for new high tech equipment to see that. But maybe there is another mechanism too. (Hopefully not involving any Gorillas ;) ) It is interesting that this test it may give us a window on CP violation too Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:42:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT From: janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com I don't understand how strange and antistrange quarks can come from protons. There would need to be a quark reformatting process involved that can turn matter into different matter and antimatter types instantly. It is easier to accept that light energy from the laser is turned into matter and antimatter, especially since the color of the light changes the nature of the matter produced. Said in another way, different light makes different matter. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Stephen Cooke <stephen_coo...@hotmail.com> wrote: Could generation of +/- s quark pairs be the trigger for nucleon disintegration. Could each pair with an up quark to form kaons and force the disintegration of the nucleons from which the up quark comes? Each s quark has a rest mass of 100MeV. I'm not sure if there is a meson containing an s quark pair however. Unless it is in the form of K- long or K- short also about 497 MeV that seem to contain a strange balanced mixture of + and - down and strange quarks. I'm not knowledgable enough of a nuclear physics to know if this is something to consider, but it seems intersting. Sent from my iPhone On 26 Oct 2015, at 08:03, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: K−, negatively charged (containing a strange quark and an up antiquark) has mass 493.667±0.013 MeV and mean lifetime (1.2384±0.0024)×10−8 s.K+ (antiparticle of above) positively charged (containing an up quark and a strange antiquark) must (by CPT invariance) have mass and lifetime equal to that of K−. The mass difference is 0.032±0.090 MeV, consistent with zero. The difference in lifetime is (0.11±0.09)×10−8 s. What's weird is that two different quarks types are produced out of nothing. You just don't find strange quarks in ordinary matter. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: in physical cosmology, baryogenesis is the generic term for the hypothetical physical processes that produced an asymmetry(imbalance) between baryons and antibaryons produced in the very early universe. The baryonic matter that remains today, following the baryonic-antibaryonic matter annihilation, makes up the universe. LENR could be responsible for the past and ongoing production of matter in the universe in violation of CPT and that negative matter (antibaryons) is being sent back in time. We see excess electrons pop into existence in LENR reactions. Could LENR be the GOD reaction? In point of fact, Holmlid is producing electrons from nothing in his experiment. Don't get excited, we are just talking here. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: CPT THEOREM C(harge) -P(arity=reflection) -T(ime reversal) INVARIANCE is a property of any quantum field theory in Flat space times which respects: (i) Locality, (ii) Unitarity and (iii) Lorentz Symmetry. Holmlid is producing neutral K mesons. This particle demonstrates CP violation, The discovery of CP violation in 1964 in the decays of neutral kaons resulted in the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1980 for its discoverers James Croninand Val Fitch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP_violation Who can say why LENR produces neutral K mesons?
