CPT violation must occur to produce charge and real matter. The negative energy partner is retained inside the tachyon. Only K mesons violate the CPT symmetry.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Stephen Cooke <[email protected]> wrote: > Assuming Kaons are generated within Ni 62 or Fe 58 Nuclei it still leads > to some other questions: > > Why would less energetic particles such as neutral Pions or +/- Pion > pairs not be produced from Nucleus first before the Kaons are generated? This > could be due to a couple of reasons: > > 1. If there is a resonance effect particular to values energies than 496 > MeV. > 2. The energy of the Pions are not sufficient to tunnel through the > potential well significantly in relationship to their half-life. > > Could Pions be produced in other lower energy system or through other > elements? > > Although Pions are are a product of the Kaon decay, perhaps Pions can > also be generated in lighter nuclei assuming 8 MeV per nucleon This would > require nuclei heavier than the rest mass of the mesons produced. (I don't > know > if reactions along these lines have ever been reported so I'm being > speculative.) > > Pion 0 with 135 MeV: 135 / 8 = 16.8 nucleons. So a nucleus heavier than > Oxygen, maybe Fluorine, Neon or Sodium (Note that if produced a Pion 0 > decays to 2 Gamma > 65 MeV after a very short half life) > > Pion +/- pair with 2 * 139 MeV: 139 * 2 / 8 = 34.75 nucleons. So a > nucleus heavier than Sulphur, maybe Chlorine, Argon or Potassium for > example? > > Is the Spin Parity state of the parent Nucleus important? > > Pions have 0 spin and Kaons Spin of +/- 1, I suppose that due to > conservation laws, in order for a Nucleus to generate these Mesons from an > excited state those nuclei would need to be even Nuclei with integer spin > states such as Ni 62 or Fe 58. Nucleons with Odd nuclei such as Ni 61 would > therefore not be able to spawn these Mesons. Is this correct or is it the > case that if no nucleon is lost they can be generated from excited states > in both Odd and Even nuclei? > > If LENR occurs and Pions are observed but not Kaons perhaps it occurs due > to some process like this. > > What is the impact of slightly lighter nuclei with just insufficient > binding energy to produce Mesons? > > I wonder what happens if a lighter nucleus with to little binding energy > to form a Meson is in the mix could it have sufficiently high energy levels > of the right quantum states to still resonate closely and interfere with > the production of mesons form the other nuclei, by absorbing energy or > interfering with the resonance that would otherwise be used in the heavier > nuclei for generation of the Mesons for example Oxygen in the case of > Pion 0 production (perhaps desirable to reduce Pion 0 production) and > Sulphur in the case of Pion +/- production (not desirable if +/- Pions are > wanted). I suppose lighter isotopes would also have an effect such as Fe 56 > or light isotopes of Nickel in association with Fe 58 or Ni 62 in the case > of Kaon production from Fe 58 or Ni 62. If the interfering nuclei > decrease in proportion due to other effects of the LENR such a > Muon assisted fusion or Nucleon decay or nucleon spallation due to the > resonance, perhaps the Meson production becomes more efficient with time. > > If I recall correctly it has been mentioned somewhere on LENR Forum by > ogfusionist I think that in some LENR fusion experiments Oxides can be > beneficial to the reaction and Sulphur can be detrimental, could this be > partly why? Oxides inhibiting Pion 0 production and therefore reducing risk > of Gamma from its decay, Sulphur poisoning +/- Pion production? I > appreciate he was probably indicating oxides were creating better NAE for > fusion rather than considering pion production. > > > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:53:16 +0100 > > > In answer to your original question Axil, could this be "why LENR produces > Neutral Kaons"? > > 1. Nickel 62 or Iron 58 acts as a source of long life K0 through some kind > of external stimulation to greater than 496 MeV, probably collective and > entangled stimulation, possibly from lasers, Phonons, magnetic stimulation > from SPP etc. (perhaps resonance of the Nucleus to particular quantum > states is required for this?) > > 2. The long life low Kinetic Energy K0 mesons which are neutral have a > half-life of 51 ns and contain a balanced combination of +/- strange and > down quarks then maybe get absorbed by other nuclei including UDD and > others. > > 3. The absorbed K0 in the nuclei interaction with other nucleons in the > Nuclei possible changing their type or leading to Nucleon disintegration > and generation +/- Kaons including the original s quarks from the K0? Can > this happen? Has this kind of behaviour ever been observed with K0 > interactions with Nuclie in other experiments? > > 4. Meson generation from the decay of +/- Kaons and 0 Kaons and further > decay chain through muons to electrons as described by Holmlid > > 5. Meson or Muon mediated fusion in Kaonic, Pionic or Muonic Atoms and > Nucleon disintegration giving enough energy to stimulate a source (phonon > or SPP) to allow further K0 production in Ni. > > The initial source to stimulate the original K0 would need to be accounted > for. > When we have the Laser could it stimulate this? > Without the laser would SPP perhaps present in the UDD or phonon > stimulation be able to stimulate a resonance to 496 MeV in the Fe58 or Ni62 > Nuclei? > > If neutral Kaons are generated from Ni62 and Ni58 how do we account for > LENR in Pd and Pt systems? Would we need Fe and Ni contaminants or would > some Kaons still be generated and tunnel in these nuclei? Or could they be > generated but interact with the nucleons within their parent nuclei, and > cause nucleon disintegration and generate +/- K and locally. > > Just some thoughts probably there are still holes in the idea. > > > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:28:54 +0100 > > Regarding my earlier Comments : > > " for a single K 0 to form this would imply a nucleus of heavier than > Nickel…." > > "*** If I understand correctly there are no sufficiently heavy elements > available in Holmlids experiment for Kaons to form this way? …" > > This is not strictly correct. > > Something new and potentially significant has come up: > > In fact Nickel 62 and Iron 56 and 58 have higher binding energy per > nucleon than average about 8.79 MeV per nucleon. (I was previously assuming > average natural mass numbers and 8 MeV per Nucleon) > > Ni 62 binding energy = 62 * 8.7945 = 545 MeV > Fe 58 binding energy = 58 * 8.7922 = 509 MeV > Fe 56 binding energy = 56 * 8.7903 = 492 MeV > > Ni 62 and Fe 58 would both therefore be sufficient for containing a K0 > Meson 496 MeV > Fe 56 on the other hand would just fall short. > > Fe is present in Holmlids experiment as part of the catalyst to form UDD. > > Ni is also present in Holmlids experiment as the target for the laser. > > This could be very important since the energy of the K0 is very close to > the maximum binding energy, it should be relatively easy to quantum tunnel > out of the nucleus within its half life. > > Could the Ni62 in the target (and maybe Fe58) be acting as a source of K0 > long mesons that then interact with other nuclei in particular the UDD. > > Note like neutrons K0 long have neutral charge so could easily be absorbed > by other nuclei, but also have a half-life of about 51 ns before decaying > to pions . > > These K0 could potentially interact with low energy impacts with any other > as well as the UDD, potentially leading nucleon changes or disintegration > in those nuclei. > > Perhaps the energy released in these K0 interaction and/or associate muon > or meson assisted fusion is sufficient to stimulate further K0 production > in other Ni62 or Fe58 Nuclei. > > > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:56:52 +0100 > > Yup I agree with you Axil although I am no expert on these matters I also > don't know of anyway they could be generated from the protons. I will be > interested if someone has an explanation for that. > > Just to expand on the strange quark pair generation idea: > > This is why I was wondering that if sufficient energy is applied if a > strange anti strange quark pair can be manifested. If so quarks do not > exist in isolation so they would normally need to be contained in a meson. > Unlike Pion 0 which contain + and - up quarks or + and - down quarks I do > not see such a meson for just + and - Strange quarks. (Does any one know if > one exists)? > > There are a few other Mesons however might be applicable. These are the > eta meson, the eta prime meson, the short K 0 and the long K 0. All these > Mesons are neutral and are their own anti particle. All these Mesons > contain strange mixed up combination of + and - pairs of quarks the eta > contain Up, Down and Strange quarks, the short and long K0 contain Down and > Strange quarks. I'm not exactly what they mean in physical terms. The eta > and eta prime Mesons are heavier than the Kaons and have very short half > lives. The short kaon also has a short half life. The long Kaon however has > a longer half life of 51 ns. > > (The strange combinations of quarks in eta and K0 mesons can be found in > the Meson list in this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mesons) > > Since K0 short and Long are their own anti particle I wonder if they can > be generated individually at lower energy than required for + - Meson pairs > i.e 497 MeV for K0 long rather than 996 MeV for +/- Kaon pairs. > > I should say that if this process is to work either it would need to be > contained with in the nuclei. For particles the mass of Kaons this implies > quite heavy Nuclei otherwise the energy would exceed the nucleus binding > energy, for +/- K pairs it would imply nuclei heavier than Antimony are > required (perhaps Pt if available would full fill this) for a single K 0 to > form this would imply a nucleus of heavier than Nickel. I suppose one could > imagine a resonant or entangled process where the energy was raised and > distributed across several nuclei, thereby liberating Kaons from all the > nuclei at the same time. > > If heavy nucleons are available in Holmlids experiment this could lead to > a test of the idea by removing elements heavier than Nickel if we stopped > seeing Kaons (and maybe only see pions onwards), it could demonstrate that > maybe this process was in action. > > HOWEVER: > > *** If I understand correctly there are no sufficiently heavy elements > available in Holmlids experiment for Kaons to form this way? If I remember > right there are no elements heavier than Nickel listed? The catalyst I > think only contains Potassium, Iron and Oxygen. Is the is correct? If so it > implies another process must take place. *** > > I think in the current consensus this leaves effectively two > possibilities: > > 1. Concurrent Nucleon disintegration or annihilation with the production > of particles also including strange quarks, if so an explanation is needed > as to how down quarks can change to strange quarks for example. > > 2. Axil's SPP Analogue black hole Hadron evaporation. It will be amazing if > it can work that way, i wonder if there is a particular absolute proof way > to observe that , such as actually observing an form SPP and seeing Kaons > come directly as a result of it? I suppose we will have to wait for new > high tech equipment to see that. > > But maybe there is another mechanism too. (Hopefully not involving any > Gorillas ;) ) > > It is interesting that this test it may give us a window on CP violation > too > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:42:22 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > > I don't understand how strange and antistrange quarks can come from > protons. There would need to be a quark reformatting process involved that > can turn matter into different matter and antimatter types instantly. It is > easier to accept that light energy from the laser is turned into matter and > antimatter, especially since the color of the light changes the nature of > the matter produced. Said in another way, different light makes different > matter. > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Stephen Cooke < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Could generation of +/- s quark pairs be the trigger for nucleon > disintegration. Could each pair with an up quark to form kaons and force > the disintegration of the nucleons from which the up quark comes? Each s > quark has a rest mass of 100MeV. I'm not sure if there is a meson > containing an s quark pair however. Unless it is in the form of K- long or > K- short also about 497 MeV that seem to contain a strange balanced mixture > of + and - down and strange quarks. I'm not knowledgable enough of a > nuclear physics to know if this is something to consider, but it seems > intersting. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26 Oct 2015, at 08:03, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > > K−, negatively charged (containing a strange quark and an up antiquark) > has mass 493.667±0.013 MeV and mean lifetime (1.2384±0.0024)×10−8 s. > K+ (antiparticle of above) positively charged (containing an up quark and > a strange antiquark) must (by CPT invariance) have mass and lifetime equal > to that of K−. > > The mass difference is 0.032±0.090 MeV, consistent with zero. The > difference in lifetime is (0.11±0.09)×10−8 s. What's weird is that two > different quarks types are produced out of nothing. You just don't find > strange quarks in ordinary matter. > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > > in physical cosmology <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_cosmology>, > *baryogenesis* is the generic term for the hypothetical physical > processes that produced an asymmetry > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry>(imbalance) between baryons > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baryon> and antibaryons produced in the very > early universe <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang>. The baryonic > matter <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter> that remains today, > following the baryonic-antibaryonic matter annihilation, makes up the > universe <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe>. > > LENR could be responsible for the past and ongoing production of matter in > the universe in violation of CPT and that negative matter (antibaryons) is > being sent back in time. > > We see excess electrons pop into existence in LENR reactions. Could LENR > be the GOD reaction? In point of fact, Holmlid is producing electrons from > nothing in his experiment. Don't get excited, we are just talking here. > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > > CPT THEOREM C(harge) -P(arity=reflection) -T(ime reversal) INVARIANCE is a > property of any quantum field theory in Flat space times which respects: > (i) Locality, (ii) Unitarity and (iii) Lorentz Symmetry. > > Holmlid is producing neutral K mesons. This particle demonstrates CP > violation, > > The discovery of CP violation in 1964 in the decays of neutral kaons > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaon> resulted in the Nobel Prize in > Physics <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_in_Physics> in 1980 > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_in_Physics#1980s> for its > discoverers James Cronin <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cronin>and Val > Fitch <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Fitch>. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP_violation > > Who can say why LENR produces neutral K mesons? > > > > > > > >
