Bob,
I really think you expressed some very important concerns.
Your writing is very good (wish my command of the language was as good).
I often say the 'bureaucrats', when I complain about the system we have. I
should change that. You are right there is nothing wrong with them as
people. It is the system we have allowed that creates opportunities hard to
resist and with huge rewards for compliance.
Pointing at the university system should open the eyes to everyone. See the
recent elimination of the leadership in Missouri. One can have any opinion
one prefer about if it is the way to handle a problem. For sure it
indicates that the leadership is so far from the students that they need to
communicate via media. Does that tell us that the organization is too large
for what it is set out to do. I live in CA. The UC system is lead by a
politician with qualifications that might be good on paper. The system is
so over organized that even a person with no experience of organizations
must wonder. There are 208,000 employees to educate 234,000 students.
Almost on-on-one. Passing through the system is very much basics for a job
opportunity today. Only very few students (percentage wise) has capacity to
utilize the resources they have occupied. (Not the students fault.)
Considering that only a few students benefitted from the resources the
price tag is just stupid. The rest of the students, just went for the test
- the exam - a job opportunity - good in itself but could have been
achieved with a fraction of the cost.
The school system works for rewarding politicians no longer fitting the
mold and to hide behind the real ly gifted students, which can lead us in
the future. I think it requires segregation in the school system - we just
have to learn that one fraction is as important as another. As an analogy
there is an article about ants
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what-ants-teach-you-leadership-amit-basu it
shows how ants send out scouts / leaders to find food sources. However,
without all the working ants there would be no anthill. The need to
segregate should be based solely on objective evaluations. I know that is
utopia but as close as possible.
The secrecy you talk about is perhaps the root of the problem. Secrecy
creates more secrecy and undermine trust. It really has zero long term
benefits. Of course we live in a word where people steal ideas so keeping
secrets until they can be exploited I can understand. I think that is a
very short time and it ends the minute you have confirmation. The notion
that the government keeps secrets from the people in the nation is absurd.
Once again for short term tactical reasons I see the reasons. As soon as
the secret is exposed - full exposure would be much better than this half
lie, which most of the time is the end result. There is no value in keeping
secrets because it shows some negative sides of prominent people for
example. It just starts a rumour mill that creates a picture of a shady
person ands sooner or later the full story will be revealed and the shady
image will now accentuate the issue.

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros


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Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and
enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM)


On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> *From:* Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 6:48 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* [Vo]:New RTSC candidate with a lesson for LENR
>
> Jones--
>
> You noted:
>
> >>>The meltdowns happened in 2012 (published by Szpak and Dea in J. Cond.
> Mat. Nuc. Sci) before SPAWAR was disbanded and apparently the meltdown results
> were not pursued by anyone else thereafter, despite the shocking military
> implications. Too bad, but symptomatic of the many external circumstances
> which have kept LENR from advancing.
>
> I suppose the “conspiracy theorist” (not there are any of them here)
> might cynically opine that the Navy R&D program was ostensibly shut down as
> a false front, so that it could be moved into a “dark program”… however,
> none of the participants seem to believe that… at least not publicly. It
> is the only scenario which would make one think that all large
> bureaucracies are inherently incompetent (Rickover notwithstanding).<<<
>
>
>
> I for one in this Vortex group am cynically and do opine that the SPAWAR’S
> effort in LENR became BLACK along with 5300 some odd other programs (still
> on the books)  over the years, most of them labeled as such by the DOD AND
> DOE.
>
> My cynicism does not come from a concern with the incompetence of the US
> government, however.  It is based on a disagreement with the value system
> that seems to drive decisions this government makes.  Specifically, the
> value promoted by this government that secrecy regarding scientific
> endeavors and secret knowledge as it relates to development of weapons and
> national defense trumps making such knowledge available and promoted to
> further the advancement of civilized actions to make a better life for the
> masses.
>
> This promotion of secrecy is consistent with feeding the military
> industrial complex and its opulent elite corporations that prosper at the
> expense of the majority.  The value held by many of greed and avarice is
> the real source of my cynicism.  And that the value is reflected by the
> voting public in what they allow to happen, probably because of
> ignorance.
>
> As you suggest, Rickover at least saw through the military industrial
> complex and refused to abide by its rules.  He tried to make scientific
> information available to the public for nuclear power development—to better
> the civilized world.  I was intimately involved with his efforts to develop
> the light water breeder reactor  (Th-232/U-233 cycle), as well as his
> growing disillusion with the nuclear power industrial complex and its
> ability to manage nuclear power safely,  and environmentally “correct” for
> the good of the masses.
>
> His concerns have been raised to real issues throughout the world,
> somewhat mitigating my cynicism—at least in one area of technology—fission
> nuclear power.
>
> Although Rickover was not as well known about his concerns over the
> education system in the United States, the development of an
> education/government complex was a focus of his criticism over many years.
> I once wrote a letter for him that he sent to the Arlington, VA school
> system regarding the disproportional number of administrators with high
> salaries compared to teachers and their salaries.   The issue of the
> university/military-industrial complex has only blossomed since his death
> in the early 1980’s.   University research is becoming more and more
> controlled by grant provisions, patent rights and secrecy.
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>

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