I have been reading this tread for a while. No, I understand just pieces here and there. Darn to theoretical for me. However, I am interested (no, not enough to be educated:) and once I got a degree in electronics, so I like when things can be explained by electrical and magnetic fields. At least it makes some sense. I have been hearing about the 'electrical universe' since long time. Hannes Alfven was a Swedish scientist and an entertaining person and this 'gravity' is so not intuitive to me. I am impressed by all the knowledge you guys are exposing. I assume you will say that my question is too simple to even address but I would appreciate just a few argument as a response. If the explanation was the 'electrical universe' then we need no quantum mechanics, no g-constant (9.81m/s2), no black holes, no expanding universe etc.Actually not even dark matter or dark energy. I am sure I am hoping for that there is a simple solution, when there is none. Just let me hear a few good simple reasons why I should just forget about that idea.
Best Regards , Lennart Thornros [email protected] +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:31 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > It doesn't actually perform any *work* to keep it from happening, it >> provides an >> opposing *force*. Neither the magnet nor gravity do any work, since there >> is no >> component of the motion vector that is *parallel* to the force vector. > > > I do not deny your point. There's no work being performed, either up or > down. The concept of work is narrower than the one we want here. If we > were to replace the permanent magnet with a magnet that requires a current, > we humans would have to expend a lot of energy (do work) to keep the system > in stasis, even if the current were to circulate within a superconductor. > > In the case of gravity, we have a force that arises between massive > objects. In the case of electrostatic attraction/repulsion, we have a > force that arises between charged objects (e.g., electrons and protons). > In the case we're considering here, we have angular momentum, somehow > frozen into the permanent magnet, setting up a force between objects with > intrinsic spin (electrons). This angular momentum does not decrease in the > form of a transfer that results in an increase in potential energy to the > object being held up as the force is applied, in the usual way that angular > momentum can be harnessed to produce a force. That is amazing to me. > > Eric > >

