The Papp engine produced excess electrons and that system used XUV EMF to
stimulate the LENR reaction. The Papp engine used special electrodes called
hollow screw threaded closeable buckets which contained an alpha emitter in
a cavity like radioactive radium or thorium, where a electric arc greatly
stimulated the alpha emitter. The excess electrons produced by the XUV
based reaction were attracted to highly ionized  positively charged
buckets. This technology was used in the 1930's for lightning rods where
Papp pick its up its use from.

http://www.pittas.gr/en/pages/services/radioactive-lightning-rod-removal/

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Since 1975 and under license from the Greek Atomic Energy Commission,
installing radioactive lightning conductors was allowed. The lightning
rod’s head had radioactive isotopes Am-241 or Ra-226. The intensive
ionization of air around the rod’s head caused by the charged particles,
created an attractive pole for lightning. Depending on the amount of
radioactivity in the head – in μCi – the protection radius was determined
from R = 50 to 400 meters.


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The Papp engine that was self powered by recycling overunity electrons
produced by the XUV LENR reaction.

To see how this all works, look at starting at 21:10 of the video below.
Watch the motor in the background driven by the feedback current gathered
by the electrons gathered by the thorium filled buckets. During firing, the
motor has a spinning white circular disk on it with four holes placed
around the edge that allows you to see the disk in motion.

Bob Rohner still uses buchet electrodes to gather excess electrons but he
still uses noble gases to produce the reaction. IMHO, deuterium is far
better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zWJNyoFgJM

Holmlid also uses XUV and deuterium that produces K-mesons which eventually
decay to electrons. It seems like XUV based high energy LENR reactions
produce excess electrons.

IMHO, Rossi is using the XUV high energy LENR reactions in the E-Cat X to
also produced excess electrons.

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