Hydrogen has more lift, it's cheaper, and it's easier to contain (molecule's roughly twice as big, doesn't slip through the pores so quickly).

For the record - yes, the hydrogen molecule is actual bigger in the 'long 'dimension than helium because the helium 'molecule' is the *same* monatomic unit as the atom. IOW there is NO such animal as He2, and the helium atom itself is quite compact, due to the higher bonding energies of the electrons. OK that much is true. But the decision to use helium these days is both political and economic - but not really related to any significant (true scientific) explosion risk. The so-called 'cheapness' of hydrogen quickly disappears when other cost factors are added-in.

Furthermore, it should be noted that the real problem is that hydrogen IS considerably harder to contain - but not because of its molecular size. It is harder to contain only because it quickly forms ions and free protons at the interface of many materials, even non-electrical-conductors ... and, yes, the lone proton IS indeed millions of times smaller than any molecule.

The nucleus is ~10,000 times less diameter than the atom, and the volume size difference would be the square of that - now that IS a huge difference compared to helium. Many nonmetals, even ceramics, are good proton conductors (and that is why we have fuel cells) and in general the 'problem' with hydrogen - and its resultant higher "net cost" was in finding a thin non-porous AND non-proton-conductor for coating the fabric skin of the LTA airships to prevent losses.

There is little problem with helium 'bags', which need no complicated coating as does hydrogen. Almost any rubber or plastic based paint will contain helium whereas most of these same coatings are proton conductors. The proton is extremely mobile at the quantum level. The cost and extra weight of hydrogen *containment* in the LTA, therefore outweighs the much higher cost of helium compared to hydrogen, and when you add in the higher weight of the special coatings (often double) then there is little 'net' weight saving over helium.

The real 'problem' with Hindenburg - as all careful historians have noted: 'paint' not the 'fill.'

That and Germany having no helium resources. Which is what makes this subject matter "On Topic" for LENR as arguably the very genesis of LENR is to be found in the German (European) attempts to manufacture helium from hydrogen - since the USA had the monopoly on helium in that time period.

It was the airship coating - the paint - which caught fire initially. The coating was a resin containing aluminum powder - thus the 'silver' color. The powdered aluminum in the paint, and probably in proximity to an engine exhaust manifold, caused the fire, not the hydrogen, which when it burns produces no color - so you would have seen no 'fire' anyway from just hydrogen, had that been the problem.

All of this is well documented in the literature by now, but as these messages on Vortex demonstrate, not well understood or appreciated by even the most interested observers.

Jones




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