Hi Marcus! Sure! I know at least two organizations who are going to purchase one. One is in Australia, and another is in Finland. The Finns have a crowdfund project. https://mesenaatti.me/en/steornin-ikiliikkujatekniikan-tutkimusprojekti/ <- I'm trying to get in to record the electromagnetic fields + activities of both of the devices, the Ocube and the Ophone. I hope they'll sound juicy enough to be made electronic music out of.
On 2 December 2015 at 16:14, Marcus Winckers <marcki...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Esa, > > I see that you, like me, are interested in the Cube. I am planning on > buying one later in the day if possible. My christmass present for > myself. Shall we keep in touch and exchange thoughts and experiences? > > Marcus Winckers > Utrecht > Netherlands. > Op 29 okt. 2015 07:38 schreef "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com>: > > If you guys like the internets more, the transcript is mirrored here: >> http://freeenergy.news/steorn/steorn-o-cube-webinar-full-transcript/ >> >> >> On 29 October 2015 at 02:17, Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, here's my transcript of the Orbo Steorn Webinar broadcast on the >>> 28th October 2015. >>> >>> If you use any of it, please credit accordingly. >>> the video is at http://orbo.com/ >>> -- >>> >>> Pat: Welcome to the Orbo Webinar. We're here today to introduce you to >>> the first Orbo product, the O-Cube. Orbo is a highly controversial >>> technology ... (Shaun places the O-Cube on the table) ..and we're going to >>> demonstrate the functionality of the O-Cube. Before we do that, however, we >>> want to just give you a brief flavour of who we are and the journey that >>> we've taken over the last fifteen years. >>> --- >>> Shaun: So, twelve and a half years ago, yeah? Tell me, how on earth, you >>> got into this crazy company. >>> Pat: The beginning's actually going back fourteen years ago, because, >>> what happened was, in 2001, I was looking to evaluate a particular piece of >>> technology, nothing to do with Steorn.. And, I didn't know how to evaluate >>> it, and I made a number of calls, and I was put in contact with yourselves. >>> So, I met Mike and yourself in 2001 and you looked at the proposition, the >>> technology we're looking at, and you evaluated it and you said look, >>> listen, this is not, you know, something to look at.. so, that was the way >>> it was left. And, I went to meet you then in April 2004 and the purpose of >>> that conversation was.. ahm.. >>> Shaun: "Where's me fucking money" (laughs) >>> Pat: Well, it wasn't, it wasn't even at that, because I knew, like, the >>> proposition for what is.. But the point you were putting to me, was you >>> said, "Look, we're looking for a venture capital..".. you said to me, first >>> of all, you said to me, "I'm looking for a VC company", and what I did >>> was.. I.. The first thing I did probably before I even looked beyond them >>> was, I got a friend of mine who's a, you know, he's an engineer and I got >>> him to go in and spend some time with yourself and Mike and to evaluate >>> what it was. And.. I can remember walking out of Fumberly Court as it was >>> on a Friday afternoon and.. the two of yous were walking along side by >>> side.. I said "What you think?" and he just said "Can I invest?". And it >>> was, it was kind of like that, and I said "Are you serious?" and he said, >>> "Pat, If this is right" he said, "This is gonna to be very very serious." >>> ---- >>> Mike: So Shaun, looking a bit tired.. Understandable. Ten years >>> defending your claims and yourself. Ahm, give us a little bit of background >>> about Steorn, for a bit, new people tuning in today. >>> Shaun: Steorn was a company that you and me founded, Mike. Back in 2000, >>> and we started doing project management.. We were in the world of fruit, a >>> lot of bananas. And then we started developing technology for others, as >>> you know, that's when we developed forensic systems for companies like >>> Microsoft and credit card companies, and we did expert witnessing, in, >>> fraud.. >>> Mike: (interrupts) So you get on.. >>> Shaun: And then one day.. >>> Mike: (interrupts) And then one day you're sitting there at your desk, >>> magnets spinning around, and you decide: "I need an ad in the Economist". >>> Shaun: One day we made a discovery, whatever you gonna call it, a >>> mistake, depending on where you sit, where we went, yeah, look.. >>> We can get more energy out of these bizarre magnetic fields than we're >>> putting in, isn't that really cool? And wouldn't it be great to build >>> something that uses this, put it in the market, and hopefully make a lot of >>> money. >>> --- >>> Alex?: When I saw yous guys coming in, and meeting up after work, I >>> realized that yous were doing a lot of brainstorming, and once I, you know, >>> I didn't really know much about it, because I kept hearing the name Steorn, >>> and I didn't really know how to pronounce it or anything like that, but I >>> realized that yous were doing some interesting stuff, but it's been >>> enjoyable seeing the progression over the years, and, you know, we're >>> really, really really interested in what's going on, ahm, you know.. >>> Shaun: And you.. You see all the lads from Steorn, outside and about, in >>> and out of there, these lads that just (heard) about every provocation and >>> word and insult in the world, they're called conman, scam-artist, and so >>> on, you've seen them at their most vulnerable. Honestly what do you think >>> of them? >>> Alex?: I've never seen them worry, I've never seen them. I like them, >>> genuinely like, I know yous all, right down to Max, I've played poker with >>> so many of yous, we've shared so many late nights, and I remember telling >>> my friends, you know, we're also in business, and I said, this guy doing >>> mad stuff with magnets, like, you know, and yeah.. Yous are operating in, >>> you know, this crazy environment, and, when we, you know, when we >>> eventually -- when you actually turned around and said that we could have >>> one of these boxes in the pub for a while, I mean, I was just cackahoop >>> when I saw.. When I heard that, and I mean, you know, not.. Partly I was >>> wondering what the hell it is, but the other part of it is just really >>> really interested at being involved with something so revolutionary.. >>> -- >>> Shaun: Ok, Pat, so, you have hustled twenty odd million, and went to >>> private investors around Ireland, and that started twelve years ago, yeah? >>> In that twelve years the company has failed, and failed again, and failed >>> again and failed again. And Pat Corbett has raised money again, raised >>> money again and raised money again. What the fuck? >>> Pat: (pause) Ahm, see that's that word, failure, you see. Look.. You >>> know.. We haven't.. >>> Shaun: Failed. Failed with the jury, failed with the London demo, failed >>> to ever show anything convincing to anybody, failed to put a product in the >>> market. Twelve years of failure, Pat's driving around the country, taking >>> money from people. >>> Pat: Yeah, as it was, if you look at it like that, if you're looking at >>> it from the outside in, Shaun, that's that's, that's what it is, it's >>> failure, you know. People, you know, and.. And right now, you know (what) I >>> mean, and over the years, there is that, there's a huge level of fear and >>> nervousness among the shareholders. >>> Shaun: How does Pat know, Corbett know that it'll work? >>> Pat: (pause) Pat Corbett has always known that it works. >>> Shaun: (interrupts) No no, how does Pat Corbett know that the Powercube >>> will work? >>> Pat: (pause) The only reason Pat can say based on.. >>> Shaun: (interrupts) a great pause, that's - fucking aye, that was the >>> money shot.. go-on (laughs) >>> Pat: The only way Pat.. Pat has had one of the, one of the original >>> Powercubes that he had basically going around in his car for a month.. >>> Shaun: Okay. >>> Pat: Now, that worked for a month, that shouldn't happen. That did work. >>> Shaun: Okay. >>> Pat: So, like, in other words, all I can do, Shaun, is, as, all I can >>> do, is say, alright, give the benefit of my knowledge and experience. I'm >>> not a scientist, I'm never, like, I'm not an engineer. >>> Shaun: For twenty odd million, yeah, where's it gone? >>> Pat: The money has gone, in.. it's twelve years, so, like if you said, >>> to run a business over twelve years, you know, that cost money, like we've >>> spent a lot of money on equipment, we've spent a lot of money on papers, >>> we've spent a lot of money on staff. >>> -- >>> Shaun: Let's say it all falls flat on it's face. If technology works, >>> doesn't work, the whole thing goes wallop. Yeah? >>> Pat: Yeah. >>> Shaun: K? Where's Pat Corbett - where's Pat Corbett when he looks at his >>> fucking two kids and his wife, and he goes, "I just wasted twelve years of >>> my life, destroyed my reputation".. Where's Pat then? >>> Pat: Ahm. It's not something I've actually thought about.. >>> Shaun: (interrupts) I'm asking you though. >>> Pat: Yeah. The most important thing in my life is how my wife looks at >>> me and how my two kids look at me. >>> Shaun: Yep. >>> Pat: That's it. >>> Shaun: And if this goes tits up? >>> Pat: Ahm.. (prolonged pause) The reason I feel like this.. >>> Shaun: (interrupts) Leave it.. No, don't.. >>> Pat: (interrupts) No, no, this is relevant.. We're not leaving it. >>> (pause) That emotion (pause) is to do with my wife and my kids. >>> Shaun: Yep. >>> Pat: It's nothing to do with this gone tits up. Ok? So. (inhales) Let me >>> clarify that. Ok? Now. I can't tell you in a way that you will understand >>> that I know this thing is not going to go belly up. I can't tell anybody, >>> like, look, if somebody's looking at this, and they're saying, right. I'm >>> just a person on the other end of the screen. And.. To sound like anything, >>> you know, if you say somebody'll see this thing about you know, saying >>> something, When you look, you know, and like.. All they're saying about >>> everybody is that, the Henry Ford, Henry Ford said, you know I want the v8, >>> they said, can't be done. Steorn, you know, creating a battery to recharge >>> itself, can't be done. Okay? So, that's what people's.. But actually, I >>> know, and that's what it is, Shaun, I know. And the very thing about all of >>> the years, and let's forget about Shaun McCarthy for a second, and forget >>> Mike Daily for a second. In all the years that basically I've been with >>> Steorn, every single scientist or technologist that came in, into us, the >>> first thing, what do I do? I build a relationship with them. That's it. You >>> remember, d'you know, what you call it, two boys came in, represented the >>> company from the Middle East, let's say, they came in, and they said, "But >>> this works!" Well, of course it does, what did you think we'd do? Bring >>> yous across for the day off, d'you know what I mean? So the thing about it, >>> Shaun, is.. There's a question here, does it work? Yes it does work, you >>> know. I think the real question is: can we turn this into something? >>> Shaun: Yeah. >>> Pat: That's the real question. But.. From the point of view of.. >>> Shaun: (interrupts) D'you ever quit? D'you ever give up on this. >>> Pat: No, I won't. Because.. >>> Shaun: (interrupts) Is there more fight left in you.. Twelve fucking >>> years is a long time, any more fight left in Pat Corbett? >>> Pat: Listen, my fight hasn't begun yet. I haven't started yet. Because >>> this is not.. We've, we haven't had to fight (yet), we've only had to get >>> over the first hurdle. This'll be the first hurdle. Look man, the fight >>> hasn't started yet, when the fight does.. that's why.. As I'm saying to >>> you, it hasn't begun yet. >>> --- >>> ?: I believe you had a t-shirt before, posted before, went something >>> like CEO vs COE. >>> Shaun: Mm-hmm. >>> ?: Ahm, I think the score at the moment is 5-0 in favour of COE. D'you >>> believe the CEO's going to win out this time? >>> Shaun: I'm a Birminham fan. A 5-1 result is.. >>> ?: So you're used to losing. >>> Shaun: 5-1 result is considered a win. No. I, the truth of it is, yeah, >>> in the promoting something that blatantly looks like horse-shit, is that >>> you're going to get kicked around a lot. But, here's the other side of that >>> coin: You only have to win once. And, yeah, well we've had obvious public >>> failures and we've had obvious public disinterest in some of the stuff that >>> we've done. I only have to win once. I can lose a hundred times, and win >>> once. When I win once, we win. >>> --- >>> Shaun: Ok, so what we're going to do now is discuss the actual product >>> itself, this is what we call the O-Cube The O-Cube is a very simple device, >>> it's a power-brick or a power-cube that has one single USB output. USB >>> output is 2.1Amps, so it can charge tablets as well as smart-phones and >>> other devices. In terms of the components inside, there's really only three >>> things. There's a standard USB PCB interface electronics, there's a >>> Lithium-Ion battery and then there's the Orbo powerpack. >>> Shaun: And how it actually works is very very simple. When you plug a >>> device into this, what you're doing is draining the energy in the >>> Lithium-Ion battery. But the Orbo device, the Orbo device is constantly >>> powering the battery, so there can be situations where you draw and >>> completely drain the Lithium-Ion battery, but what will happen is that over >>> time, that the Orbo device itself will recharge the battery. >>> In terms of power output, you're looking at approximately two full >>> smart-phone charges in the 24 hour period. (The O-Girl appears) Pat now >>> will discuss the sales buys and terms of conditions, thank you O-Girl. >>> Pat: The O-Cube goes on sale in December and is available only from >>> Steorn. The cost price of this unit is 1200 euros, we're also offering a 12 >>> month warranty return to base. >>> Shaun: Ok, so, the way that we're demonstrating function here is that >>> we're giving out the O-Cube to a variety of different people, and they will >>> be reporting back on their day-to-day use of it, at each of the subsequent >>> webinars. Pat, maybe you can tell us a couple of the people who are getting >>> it, and obviously there'll be more, and, as the process goes on. >>> Pat: Ok, the first of these companies is a company we've been working >>> with for the last couple of months, a company called Rabbithole Promotions. >>> This company works in the area of guerrilla marketing, and, (they're) very >>> edgy in their approach and it's, we think it's a perfect fit for us. >>> Shaun: Yeah, we think (that) they're going to do some really >>> interesting, and unusual things with the Powercube in terms of their own >>> day-to-day market and stuff. But we'll let them report back in the next >>> webinar. >>> Pat: Second company is a clothing company, also a Dublin-based company >>> called Brickbear. Ahm, same as, these guys are into some very different >>> type of clothing, and, we think there's.. there's a very nice fix as >>> regards what the Powercube can produce for them on a day-to-day basis. >>> Shaun: And while we do have a business relationship obviously with >>> Rabbithole and Brickbear, gone to (there) myself and Pat sizes, but.. >>> there's no actual formal relationship. One last thing that we should say is >>> that while the O-Cube is the first commercially available product with >>> Orbo, there's a lot of stuff that's happening behind the scenes with >>> respect to commercial licensing and what we're going to do is play you a >>> quick video of the first.. an interview with the founder of the first >>> commercial licensee of Orbo, and we'll let him speak for himself about his >>> business, and what they're doing with Orbo. >>> ---- >>> Liquid Solutions >>> Killian McGrath (Founder): Liquid Solutions manufactures and distributes >>> E-Juice products for the E-Cigarette industry. We manufacture them here in >>> Waterford in our own facility, we do all the testing independently from >>> outside the facility, and we produce a very high-grade product within this >>> facility. We've the class to produce about a hundred thousand bottles a >>> day, or five hundred thousand bottles a week, that's basically our >>> production capacity. Yeah, the functions have gone really crazy, like when >>> we started out first, we would've started out with a 650 milliamp battery. >>> You know, a user would use that, in a day, you know and they would charge >>> it again and they'd use it all over again the next day. They'd be using a >>> head that would burn about one point six mills of juice a day. Now, four >>> years forward, they're using heads that have 3 and 4 coils inside (of) >>> them, they would burn four or five times juice with less nicotine, so, >>> that's.. the trend is going there with the big vaporus, is they want less >>> nicotine, and more puff, ok, so we're now starting to manufacture three >>> milligram juice, whereas before, the weakest we done was six. Ok, now, >>> three is the highest in the dripping, because they're taking in so much >>> liquid to produce so much vapour, ok, they're still getting the amount of >>> nicotine that they need, but they're burning about four times more juice. >>> >>> Well, you have, I suppose everybody and their mother after you really, >>> if you think about it, because you know, the three big gorillas inside, >>> you've got the tobacco companies we're doing a lot of damage to them. The >>> E-Cig is doing so much damage to them now they wanna come in and take it >>> over. Then you have the pharmaceutical guys, OK, the guys that are sitting >>> in the background, they're like the little snipers, you know, they're >>> pushing off press-releases, they're pushing out this just to discredit the >>> product, why? Because nobody is buying patches, nobody's buying chewing >>> gum, nobody is buying champax(?), OK, they've lost a whole industry, this >>> product is taking over their industry, OK? >>> >>> Then you have the government side of it, the government is losing a lot >>> of money from it, on the short side, because on the short side, they're >>> losing revenue from taxes immediately, but on the long side, they would see >>> the benefits of that in five or ten years, because they'll have less >>> serious, I suppose carcinogenic-associated health problems, moving forward >>> with the population. They will have less respiratory problems, because >>> cigarettes are a huge cause of respiratory problems, in especially >>> overweight people, and, people that are getting older in age. So the whole >>> idea is that the British medical organization came out only a month ago and >>> they said that if everybody in the UK gave up cigarettes and went on to >>> electronic cigarettes, they would save 80,000 lives a year. >>> -- >>> Liquid Solutions & Orbo >>> Killian: In 2005 I would've went to a meeting in Steorn's offices in the >>> Innovation Park in the Watlands(?) I would've sat down and listened to what >>> the guys had found or were working on, and I would be that type of person, >>> I would be very interested in stuff like that. New, something that's new, >>> something that's cheeky and something that nobody else is doing. >>> So yeah, I fell in love with the product, with the technology, and, >>> yeah, that was 2005. 2006 you were making waves and you were moving along, >>> then we all know what happened in 2007 and 2008, we had the big crash. >>> Shaun: Fucking great, wasn't it! >>> Killian: Yeah that was brilliant. We all had fun there! And I suppose >>> when I started this project, Shaun, when I started three and a half years >>> ago with Wicked E-Juice and making the juices, and then I kind of got a >>> brain-wave one day and I said "Hmm, maybe we can get a battery from Steorn >>> that we don't need to charge". And that's what started this whole project. >>> But they're looking at today, they've gone up to 3,5 thousand milliamp >>> unit, with a .2 warm head(?), up to 50 watt, now 100 watt, I was in England >>> yesterday and I saw my first 300 watt battery (laughs), so, it's gone >>> totally to the other side, it's gone to the total other extreme, whether >>> that's going to stay going that way, or it's a fad and it'll eventually >>> come back down to fairly standard products where you're using a 20 watt >>> product or a 10 watt product which is roughly around 9 volts, 8 volts.. >>> Killian: Ahh.. No frustration. Little bit behind the times, but you >>> know, it's not a lollypop we're making here. You know what I mean? We're >>> breaking new ground here. This has never ever been done before. You know, >>> this is bigger than big, you know, this is bigger than the biggest thing >>> that's going on in the world today, only for people don't know about us, >>> and that's our job, our job is to get the products out there so people do >>> know about us. >>> We're Henry Ford with the Model T. That's where we are today. In ten >>> years time, we may be Ferrari, you know, doing three hundred miles an hour, >>> instead of ten miles an hour. That's all engineering challenges. To come >>> over the next ten years, but that's where this product is going to go. This >>> is only the beginning, we're only at the beginning, we're only scratching >>> the surface where we are with this technology today. Where will we be in >>> ten or thirty years of time.. >>> God only knows. >>> --- >>> Shaun: So, I wanna pretty much thank everybody for taking the time to >>> watch this video, ahm, I know there's probably a lot in it, an awful lot of >>> questions that people about the technology, does it work, how it works, and >>> so on, let me be clear. We're not getting into any technical details at >>> this stage. But what we'll be doing is hearing from the guys who are using >>> it. The next webinar we'll announce the date of it, early next week, we'll >>> also in the next webinar be showing you some of the other products that are >>> in the pipeline, we're showing some of the R&D stuff with respect to where >>> does the Orbo battery go after the Powercube, and it will be obviously in >>> mobile consumer electronics, so, all I'm saying, again, thanks very much >>> from meself and Pat, we look forward to seeing you next time. >>> -- >>> >>> Transcript by Esa Ruoho / http://lackluster.bandcamp.com/ / >>> esaru...@icloud.com >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> --- >> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >> > -- --- http://twitter.com/esaruoho // http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // +358403703659 // skype:esajuhaniruoho // http://esaruoho.tumblr.com/ // iMessage: esaru...@gmail.com //
