Here is something I posted on CMNS that may be of interest.

Decades ago the "energy payback time" for solar panels was many years in
some cases, which meant that if they wore out or got dirty before 10 years
elapsed, you might never recoup the energy used to manufacture and install
them. However, the energy used in manufacturing has been greatly reduced,
and the conversion efficiency increased, so nowadays the energy payback
time is a little over a year. See:

http://c1cleantechnicacom.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/files/2013/12/energy-payback-solar-trend.png

This is in line with EIA estimates and various other sources.

There are two other overhead issues here, which you also have to take into
account. They are:

1. Longevity
2. Fuel energy overhead

The Energy Payback Time (EPBT) is the time it takes to recoup the energy
used in the manufacturing and installation of the device. Wind turbine EPBT
is ~8 months, which is the shortest of any conventional electric power
source. (That is what I read some years ago.) Hydroelectric dam EPBT is
much longer, about 10 years. However, hydroelectric dams last for a very
long time; a century or more. So you end up getting out much more energy
than you put in. You have to replace the turbines during those 100 years
but the EPBT for new turbines is small.

The longer an energy source lasts, the better the overall energy payback
is. Solar cells used to last 10 or 15 years, but nowadays with proper
maintenance they last 30 years, so the overall payback is ~95%, as shown in
the graph I linked to above. That is better than most energy sources.

Why is it better? Because most energy sources require fuel. When you
calculate the overall energy input and output of a coal, gas, or nuclear
plant, you have to add in the energy used to extract, refine and transport
the fuel. In the case of coal and uranium, you have to factor in the cost
of disposing of the spent fuel (the ash). This adds to the overall energy
cost of running the plant. It is difficult to get below 95% net payback for
a system that requires fuel.

The energy overhead for oil is 10% or 20% as I recall, depending on where
you drill for oil, the quality of oil, and how far you transport it. For
coal the overhead from mining and transport is usually around 5% as I
recall, so you can never get below 95%, even if the generator plant
materials and construction had zero energy overhead. Uranium production
overhead is small because the fuel produces so much energy, but disposal
overhead is somewhat unknown.

With wind, solar or hydroelectric there is no fuel, so the fuel energy
overhead is zero. The only overhead is from manufacturing, installation and
eventual decommissioning and disposal. The latter is very small for solar.
So the 95% net gain from today's PV solar is all gain, with no additional
overhead. It is probably better than coal.

Wind turbine energy overhead is about 2%, which is the best of any
conventional system. In other words, wind turbines are expected to last
about 400 months, or ~30 years. Actually, most of the energy overhead is
for the towers, not the turbines. The towers should last even longer with
proper maintenance.

Of course there are other financial overhead costs. I am only talking about
energy overhead.

In my book I estimate that the fuel energy overhead cost of Pd-D cold
fusion will be approximately 0.05% with today’s heavy water extraction
techniques. Better extraction techniques have been invented, so it will
actually be lower than this. It is trivial, in any case. There will be no
energy cost for distribution, installation or disposal. No financial cost
either.

- Jed

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