What Piantelli did not know and what Holmlid now tells us is that muon production happens in LENR. Piantelli just invented a muon like mechanism that was not needed because real muons are produced from meson decay.
High temperature condensation will occur in a EMF based quasiparticle with little or no mass made up of a polariton soliton waveform. This is the SPP. The SPP will produce mesons as discovered by Holmlid. On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]> wrote: > Jones, I think you may be wrong about this. If an f/H anion existed, it > would be a very heavy negatively charged body, like a muon but heavier. As > it approached a Ni atom, it would experience no force since the Ni > electrons screen the Ni nuclear charge. The f/H anion would enter the Ni > atom and kick out an electron keeping it a net neutral body. The f/H anion > would quickly descend into a tight orbital around the nucleus due to its > high mass. > > In Piantelli's theory, a shock of some type in the Ni rod causes the metal > grain, acting as a condensate, to draw in the hydrogen anion into the metal > grain. As the hydrogen anion is drawn in by this metal grain condensate, I > think it is possible (and Piantelli did not say this) that the hydrogen > anion could get shrunken to DDL proportions, giving up the 500 keV to the > distributed condensate. Piantelli was very concerned about creating the Ni > with specific size metal grains. > > This is why I have proposed the idea of transient condensate behavior. > There is much objection to condensates forming at these temperatures. I am > starting to believe condensates occur at all temperatures - constantly > forming and being statistically broken up as they are disrupted by thermal > agitation. Could not Piantelli's shock cause the metal grain to form a > longer, *transient condensate* - one whose lifetime has the potential to > act collectively on a surface hydrogen anion. > > Once formed, a hypothetical f/H hydrogen anion would be almost sure to > cause a nuclear reaction - it is at least 3x heaver than a muon and will > approach the nucleus that much more closely. > > Where would a repulsion arise? The f/H anion would be negatively charged > and the Ni nucleus is positive. > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Bob, >> >> >> >> A compact f/H anion as it approaches a nickel atom, would experience >> Coulomb repulsion, obviously – but that can be balanced against much >> stronger magnetic attraction of the reduced orbital at a few picometers (if >> we accept dense hydrogen). At some point, the f/H ion would find temporary >> stability within the nickel electron cloud – where it substitutes for a >> normal valence electron. >> >> >> >> A good explanation for most of the thermal gain is not fusion but – as >> you stated previously - ejection of a fast proton. This could be the result >> of SPP disruption of the temporary stability. >> >> >> >> As to what ultimately fuels that gain (accelerates the proton out of the >> Ni orbital cloud, we have as a good candidate QCD strong force dynamics. >> The mass which is converted to energy can derive from color charge of >> either nucleus, and it is possible that only one nickel isotope is >> responsible (i.e. Ni-62). Even then, since there is no fusion, there is no >> net isotope change in nickel after the proton expulsion. >> >> >> >> *From:* Bob Higgins >> >> >> >> I asked Piantelli about how the hydrogen anion could enter a Ni atom and >> approach the nucleus so closely when the anion itself is so big. In my >> thinking, if the anion had not become some type of compact body, it would >> have experienced Coulombic repulsion long before the hydrogen nucleus ever >> closely approached the Ni nucleus. He said he had deduced what was >> happening from his experimental data, and didn't have sufficient data to >> say how it happened at the atomic and sub-atomic scale - it was just what >> seemed to be happening from the observed branches of the reaction. >> Remembering my DDL lore, I asked him if he had ever seen high energy >> emissions in the reaction, and he said he had seen some 500keV emissions - >> could this have been given up for the hydrogen anion to transition to a DDL >> state? He said he had no evidence of that. He was not willing to publicly >> speculate on details for which he had insufficient supporting data - a good >> scientist's position. >> >> >> >> I subsequently wrote to Jerry Vavra at SLAC to ask if he was aware of >> anyone who may have solved Dirac's equation for a DDL state of the hydrogen >> anion. He was unaware that anyone had done this. I have not asked this of >> Meulenberg. >> >> >> >> Jones Beene wrote: >> >> *From:* Bob Higgins >> >> Bob Cook wrote: One interesting item that Piantelli noted was important >> in the 90’s was the existence of a H(-1) ion.… >> >> BH: Piantelli believes that the hydrogen anion is complicit in Ni-H >> LENR. He believes that the anion on the surface of his Ni rod is absorbed >> into a metal grain acting as a condensate when stimulated by a shock of >> various types. The anion, thus absorbed, enters a Ni atom as though it >> were a muon. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> Bob/Bob – As we have mentioned here for many years, the H anion >> explanation works far better if it is merged with Mills-inspired f/H- >> (which is a dense but stable negative ion, in contrast to the normal H- anion >> of Piantelli, which is extraordinarily unstable). >> >> CQM from the beginning envisions a stable anion which RM calls >> hydrino-hydride™. Due to trademark issues with that term, and the fact that >> the >> general concept works much better theoretically in the context of a >> single dense state (as opposed to the 137 steps of Mills) and the fact >> Mills persists in denying the nuclear origin of the gain, we find that a >> hybrid explanation is called for. >> >> We can combine Piantelli with Mills and Holmlid into the most succinct >> and instructive depiction of this anion – which is a dense stable >> negative ion, requiring charge neutralization (in the form of an alkali or >> s-block cation). Of course, there are the expected vanity impediments in >> promoting such a hybrid viewpoint. The composite explanation alienates >> purists in both the Mills and LENR camps (Holmlid doesn’t even have a camp >> yet) and pleases mainly those who are seeking the most accurate description, >> regardless of the twisted history. >> >> Jones >> >> >> > >
