In reply to Eric Walker's message of Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:07:58 -0600: Hi, Here's a guess on where the energy might be coming from. Sunlight ionizes atoms in the atmosphere. Many of these do not recombine immediately, because dry air is a poor conductor. Suppose that the electret collected and separated the positive from the negative ions, causing them to collect on respective metal plates (electrodes), until the voltage of this charged "capacitor" equaled that of the electret. If these electrodes are then connected, a current will flow until all the ions are neutralized at which point the connection is deliberately broken, and the plates allowed to recharge, from a fresh load of ions. One would probably need some electronics to convert the high voltage low current from the capacitor into a low voltage high current for the storage battery. Note that the electret itself does no real work. That was originally done by the Sun in producing the ions. In effect, the electret does electrically, what a magnetic field would do in MHD.
>On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Esa Ruoho <[email protected]> wrote: > >The result is that a permanent electric field is "frozen" into the gel >> material, with positive and negative poles. This polarized electric field >> then interacts with the two dissimilar metals to generate an electric >> current, in a way that is analogous to how the magnetic fields in the >> "classic" perpetual motion machine Orbo interacted with one another to >> generate force. The electric field frozen into the gel material works in a >> way that parallels the frozen magnetic fields of permanent magnets. >> > >This description does not make sense to me. Even if there was a way to >build a permanent "electret" that is analogous to a permanent magnet, I do >not see how it would work. It seems to me the current would quickly >saturate the potential of the electret and would drop off to zero. > >Eric Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
