In all the unusual systems mentioned I would be extremely surprised to find a significant amount of energy being harvested. It would be astounding to find more than 1 milliwatt of power available to charge the main battery.
Also, a well constructed shielded room like Bob is describing would generate far better than 3 dB reduction to the input unshielded level assumed by Jones. More like >30 plus should be expected. Dave -----Original Message----- From: mixent <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2016 3:08 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fact or fiction: Irish firm invents everlasting battery In reply to Bob Higgins's message of Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:19:32 -0700: Hi, >Such collected ions as Robin describes are most likely to be attracted to >plates that would provide a net neutralization of the electret. I agree. >In other >words, this ion current from the air would be a leakage path for the >electret and not a benefactor. It would only be a leakage current, if charge could actually reach the electret. However, if the electret is well insulated, then all you get is a charge build up. Essentially, you end up with a capacitor within a capacitor. However, whether or not one can be discharged with discharging the other, I don't know. IOW can one discharge the accessible capacitor with "discharging" the electret? [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
