On Jan 9, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Jones Beene wrote:


----- Original Message ----- From: "Horace Heffner"

Also of interest is that H2O absorbs energy at 190, 200, 250, 300, and 400 nm wavelengths.



Do you have a reference for these UV lines ?

Yes. It's the "UV Spectra of Common Liquids" section of the Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, CRC Press,, 74th Edition, 1993-1994, page 9-166 (that's page 166 of section 9).



BTW the main cosmological frequencies used to spot water are the H2O vapor absorption peaks at around 180 GHz and 320 GHz and there is also strong microwave absorption of water at around 22 GHz. This later one is not a simple rotational transition but it is the most used by cosmologists, I have read, as the others are out of range of inexpensive precision instrumentation.

That's interesting. I wonder how water does that. The 320 GHz, 180 GHz, and 22 GHz is around .0936 cm, 0.1666 cm, and 1.363 cm wavelength respectively. That is to say I wonder how that tiny molecule collects those giant wavelengths? It must be the effect Bill Beaty talks about, where an antenna sets up its own field that interferes with the big incoming signal and collects energy from it. I never did understand that effect.

Do you have a reference on the those numbers?  They sound handy.


Out of curiosity, the 190, 200, 250, 300, and 400 nm wavelengths are 157.8, 149.9, 119.9, 99.9, and 74.9 THz. Strange these don't agree with yet overlap the vibrational frequencies of water:

                   symmetrical     anti-symmetrical
         bend        stretch          stretch

   H2O   47.8         109.6           112.6
   D2O   35.3          80.1            83.6

   Table 2 - The vibrational frequencies of water molecule in THz.

I computed he above from table 3 - which comes from page 9-147 of the same CRC Handbook as above.

                   symmetrical     anti-symmetrical
         bend        stretch          stretch

   H2O   1595          3657           3756
   D2O   1178          2671           2788

   Table 3 - The vibrational wave number of water molecule in cm^-1.

Looks like I did that right. Interesting the vibration frequencies don't relate to the absorption frequencies.


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