The term x-ray covers a wide range of em energies. The softest x-rays
are stopped by air.

Harry

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If x-ray "warming" is taking place then we are at the very simple 'dead 
> graduate student' test phase.. a dose of radiation capable of warming 
> anything is surely lethal so just look into the lab and count the number of 
> dead grad students lying on the floor, any number greater than 0 means a 
> dramatic nuclear process in hand :(
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: H LV [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 5:15 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese
>
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Notice the delayed rise in T4 at the beginning of the experiment. The
>>>
>>> rise in T4 after power is turned off might just be the delayed
>>> dissipation of heat from inside to the outside.
>>
>>
>> I do not think so. Look closely as the power is being reduced, at
>> around time 14:00, shortly before "Power off." (About 7 minutes
>> before.) T4 suddenly pops up, from 110°C up to around 120°C.
>>
>> Maybe that is just noise, but if it is real, it does not look like
>> delayed dissipation to me.
>>
>> Unless the configuration of the cell is changed, I do not see how the
>> dissipation could increase suddenly like that. By "changed" I mean for
>> example, suppose the MgO insulation is wrapped around and attached
>> with adhesive tape. Suppose you loosen the tape. The outside
>> temperature might change suddenly. I doubt anyone would make such
>> changes to the cell during a test.
>>
>> If there were heat left in the cell that had to be dissipated after
>> the power is turned off, I suppose the T4 curve would continue rising
>> at a steady pace for a while, then it would drop off. It would not
>> have leveled off after 13:20. It seems the temperature inside the cell
>> continued in a stable condition if we can believe that either T1 or T2
>> was working correctly. So there was no large increase in the internal 
>> temperature.
>>
>> Granted there was a sudden increase in temperature in T1 and T2. It
>> happens at time 14:20. I just drew some lines on the graph, and I
>> think that T1 and
>> T2 go up and reach a peak about 6 minutes before T4 suddenly
>> increased. T1 continues for 26 minutes at the higher temperature.
>>
>> I would not expect T4 to pop up like that in response to the increase
>> shown by T1 and T2. I would expect T4 to gradually rise in response to
>> that increase. Perhaps it might continue after T1 peaks, but it would
>> be a continual, gradual rise. That kind of slow rise is what T4 does
>> after the initial jump, followed by a gradual decay.
>
> Ok, but if there was so much more heat being produced in the reactor why is 
> T1 dropping so quickly while T4 is gradually rising?
> Maybe the surface (see the diagram) on which the sensor was mounted was 
> warmed by a burst of xrays.
>
> harry
>
>

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