On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

First off, there's a difference between Bohr radius and the Covalent radius:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen

Dang, a differing terminology. And they have the "van der Waals radius" too, at 120 nm. They say: "The van der Waals radius of an atom is the radius of an imaginary hard sphere which can be used to model the atom for many purposes. Van der Waals radii are determined from measurements of atomic spacing between pairs of unbonded atoms in crystals."

This seems to be the radius I should have used to describe a lone hydrogen atom, the one that won't fit. I felt sure the "atomic radius" (79 nm) on my periodic chart was the radius of the stand- alone atom, and the "covalent radius" (32 nm) was the radius of the atom in the H2 molecule, and which is certainly smaller. Now there are more definitions to deal with. Wow, that big 120 nm van der Waals hydrogen radius would be even tougher to fit!



Second, I can now tell you that I am Terry Blanton

Wow!  Hi Terry!

since my boss is under the knife for an aortal valve replacement and will likely not see these posts. I had to go under cover because an irate AA

What's an AA?

who had worked with me on some CF projects

You did CF projects at work?

revealed all when she was released.

Released?  Is that like fired?

(She had all the Vortex posts on her computer.) My boss chastised me for spending too much time trying to save his grandchildren (energy). In case you don't recognize the name, we looked at a lot of 3D Mars blue berries. <g>

How could I ever forget you Terry!


Regarding your AEH, I am over 1/3 through it and agree with many aspects. I have always believed ionization in general could be ou. Do you think H2 is dissociated *and* ionized in electrolysis?

Not necessarily in low voltage electrolysis, but with no doubt in the high voltage range described in the blue glow articles <http:// www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/GlowExper.pdf> and <http:// www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/BlueAEH.pdf>.


BTW, I can find no information on the web which tells me if it is molecular, atomic, or ionized H that is deposited in Pd.

This is a really complex subject. The best book I've found is Topics in Applied Physics, Vol 73, Hydrogen in Metals III, Edited by H. Wipf, Springer-Verlag, ISBN 3-540-61639-X.

The most exciting thing is that diffusion happens primarily by tunneling, and typical diffusion jump rates exceed 1 THz! Diffusing hydrogen in metals is a great environment for tunneling events, like fuson.



My data is on my office computer. It is damned hard to find the unit cell length of Pd!! I have a NRL report which shows 4% swelling of the Pd lattice during hydridization (made that word up!). I'll give you those refs tomorrow.

Yes, a small percent swelling is typical and it correlates to an increase in resistance - which is due to electrons matched with the adsorbed hydrogen getting tied down, in my opinion. When the nuclei can't diffuse any longer, the electrons can't move. They are "in a box".

Horace Heffner

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