On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]>
wrote:

Eric, my understanding of the Crookes radiometer is that it measures light
> intensity by the rotation of its vane, but the effect is NOT due to photon
> emission recoil, it is due to the effects of the differential heating of
> the minute amount of gas present in the bulb.  In a hard vacuum, this
> radiometer would not work - photon emission recoil would be insufficient to
> make the vanes move.  I had one of these as a teen.
>

Thank you for the clarification. The fact that there is a vacuum tripped me
up, and I jumped to conclusions.

I wish I had some insight in the case of the Shawyer thrust effect.  I
> cannot say that I really even have an informed opinion - that would require
> far more study than I have done.  It is a marvelous mystery and perhaps
> someday I will participate.  For now, I am trying to stay focused on LENR.
>

The following thought occurred to me this morning: if neutrinos were the
ballast, they could exit the Shawyer drive without the interference that
photons would encounter.  Since neutrinos have mass, and since reactions in
which they arise are generally energetic, it seems likely that neutrino
recoil will be bigger than photon recoil in a system like this.

Of the two sources of neutrinos that readily come to mind, electron capture
and beta decay, there will be different characteristics if one or the other
predominates.  If electron capture is the primary source, the neutrinos
will be monoenergetic, and there will be little in the way of a rise in
temperature of the source material, as there is no accompanying beta
electron.  If beta decay is the primary source, the neutrinos will carry
away on average 2/3 of the Q value of whatever reaction produces them, and
there will be a significant rise in temperature of the surrounding material
as a result of the stopping of energetic beta electrons.

I am curious about what kind of reaction rates would be needed to produce
the thrusts seen in the EM Drive experiments.  One figure among several to
work with is 91.2 uN at 17 W power (one of NASA's results) [1].  To model
this, one wants a function that takes as input the average energy carried
away per reaction (going back to a specific set of Q values) and the
anisotropy of the neutrino flux, from 1 (anisotropic) to 0 (isotropic).

If the required reaction rates were below 1e15 per second, say, it seems
like this idea would be within the realm of possibility.  Whether the
neutrino source was electron capture or beta decay, the combination of
thrust and heat would make the drive appear as an overunity device to an
observer with no knowledge of the internal mechanism.  It seems, then, that
LENR is possibly in play in this instance.

Eric


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RF_resonant_cavity_thruster#EmDrive

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