On Jan 13, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Frederick Sparber wrote:

If  H2 + e  ----> H + H- might the 2 electron H-  form a hydrino-like
small  H particle?
How would Schroedinger's Equation handle that at atmospheric
or higher pressures?

H2 or D2 pressurized electrolysis cells, or light bulbs?

Fred


Fred,

I think there is a lot more energy to be gained from expansion of a proton to a hydrogen atom, but there is also a lot of energy (and volume ) to be gained just from H2 --> 2 H. There is still a little bit more to be gained from H + e- ---> H-. But, the big stuff is gained from the high energies involved in forming a hydrogen atom from a proton in a very confined space - assuming no hydrino is formed along the way.

I have been talking about this here for some time, except it can be protons as well as electrons that do the water ionizing to create the bare protons. Also, H2O+ ---> H2O + H should provide some energy in a confined space. Any expansion of the hydrogen atom should indeed provide energy from the ZPE sea. The higher the pressure of operation, the more the free energy. This is the opposite of Mill's approach, however, in that he takes the energy when his hydrino is formed and then essentially discards it. For more complete background see:

<http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/GlowExper.pdf>

<http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/BlueAEH.pdf>

<http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/PartOrb.pdf>

<http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/AtomicExpansion.pdf>

Horace Heffner

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