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From: F. Grimer

The Beta-atmosphere pressure
inside materials is many Alpha-atmospheres lower than
it is outside materials in allegedly empty space.

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From: TB ... aka ...hohlraum

Almost 40 orders of magnitude comparing Puthoff's conjecture of a Planck cutoff frequency for the ZPF with the mass of the proton (as I mentioned in an earlier post.). Others argue, however, that Puthoff's peak frequency is too high but still higher than the proton mass density.


I think this is a key point to Frank's theory that bears repeating for those who are not familiar with what he is suggesting - and even FG seldom jumps on this important detail with the needed emphasis - even if it turns out to be less than the "40 orders of magnitude" of Puthoff.

To the extent that such things as "tensile strength" are a function of aether pressure external - instead of the internal inherent strength of chemical bonding - then the effective external pressure is NOT the measly ~15 psi alpha-atmosphere, as compared to a zero vacuum, but instead it is zero vacuum compared to a negative pressure (which FG sometimes denotes as pF) which is a much more significant differential effect.

How much is "much" more significant ... is anybody's conjecture, and that figure of Puthoff is well considered by the leading expert.

In straight engineering terms as used in the USA, my guess is that the negative pF works out to something in the range of 100,000 to 200,000 psi equivalent.

Unlike FG, I differ in that the tensile strength of engineering materials is more likely based on both factors - the strength of the chemical bonding plus the beta-aether external pressure, and with a roughly equal contribution to tensile strength in such materials as carbon fiber which are around 400,000 psi. OTOH one could suggest that chemical bonding itself is an aether effect - maybe the gamma-aether. Then it just becomes semantics.

Why do liquids, for instance, NOT have the minimum b-a tensile strength? ... a possible analogy: the same reason that a sieve swung through air has less resistance than a pot of the same size?

Jones

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