RE: [Vo]:Re: DCE, PEC and TiH2Jones--

Several additional observations/ideas:

1. If resonances are involved in the mechanism(s)   for release of heat, 
getting two or more associated with different mechanisms to happen at the same 
time (or in a very short time) may be tough and be the reason why LENR is so 
difficult to replicate.   However, this may be the necessary condition to allow 
exchange of energy within a coherent system which includes both nuclear and 
chemical bonds. 

2. I have long thought that the Ockham’s razor dictum is only an empirical 
model—something like the Standard Model—   It does not appear to hold as 
phenomena get complicated, particularly when reactions occur within the 
confines of a coherent system with many entities taking part.   

3.  Anharmonic phenomena are good examples of complexity in non-coherent 
systems that happen unexpectedly and take time to understand.  

Bob Cook



From: Jones Beene 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 8:21 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: DCE, PEC and TiH2

From: Bob Cook 



If I understand the crux of your theory, there is a phase change going on that 
harvests energy from some source…In the cases where a plasma is apparent, what 
is the nature of the phase change you indicate is happening?  



Bob,

One of the main problems with LENR from the start is that observers have 
desperately desired to streamline the appearance of excess heat down to a 
single cause/effect, preferably of a nuclear origin. In fact there could be 
multiple things going on in any one experiment, despite Ockham’s razor. Rarely 
does Ockham provide effective guidance in science. Things are always more 
complex, the closer your look and in fact the inverse of Ockham is more likely 
to be useful.

These differing sub-effects of “hydrogen loaded metals” could be as many as six 
to ten independent phenomena, which can interact in such a way that excess heat 
happens, or endotherm happens, or transmutation happens, or excess heat happens 
in balance with endotherm and in several different ways and disappears 
unexpectedly… but none of these effects are guaranteed to be either independent 
or closely related. Yet, because of Ockham, many observers feel the 
overwhelming need to label it all under a single base cause, which includes 
fusion.

My main point is that it is a mistake to try to shoehorn everything into any 
umbrella grouping: whether it  be a cold-fusion category, or a Storms NAE 
effect or a Mills-effect category or a Holmlid-effect category … but this is 
what happens all the time. Plus, two or more categories can be interrelated at 
one level and independent on another level such that complexity alwasy prevails.

But this predicament is not hopeless. When stripped down to basics, there is 
one effect which must precede all the others. It involves the “loading” of 
hydrogen or deuterium, for lack of a better word. 

It is possible to envision the “cyclical loading/unloading” effect which is 
highlighted in the Miley paper which was cited, as the simplest thermal anomaly 
of all. Yet this one is grouped into the LENR category despite having no 
nuclear nexus. Other effects may build on it in a nuclear way - since it is the 
most basic effect, but it should be understood on its own. 

This most basic loading/unloading effect is characterized by being:

1)     Non-nuclear

2)     Low COP for thermal gain - and in fact sometimes showing anomalous 
cooling

3)     Limited to a narrow range of heat and pressure

4)     Involves phase-change and a magnetic field interaction

5)     Possibly involved in hydrogen densification, but only after an extended 
period of time

6)     Generally ignored or missed as being relevant since it is a slow effect 
which can be endothermic or have a period of endotherm.

I hope this post will serve as the start of a total and long overdue 
“de-Ockhamization” of LENR… J

Jones

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