Do not need any memory, google has a lot of it. On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Giovanni Santostasi <[email protected] > wrote:
> Why is relevant? > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> so I have a good memory or not? >> can you answer? >> peter >> >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Giovanni Santostasi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> And? >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Giovanni, just to check my memory- aren't you a known transhumanism >>>> author too, or it is only a coincidence of names? >>>> peter >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Giovanni Santostasi < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please check my thread "customer warehouse". I show different types of >>>>> calculations to demonstrate how nonsensical Rossi's claims are. Somebody >>>>> should check my calculations are correct but I will share later the MatLab >>>>> code I used. One could do these calculations also as Fermi problems in >>>>> their head given that are order of magnitude estimates. >>>>> >>>>> Bottom line: any chemical process that you can conceive of (I looked >>>>> at warming up water, melting ice and salts, the most endothermic reactions >>>>> I could find) would require processing of tons of material every few days >>>>> to use the energy involved in this situation. >>>>> >>>>> For example if you use electrolysis that is pretty demanding >>>>> physical-chemistry process (that will require to transform the heat of the >>>>> eCat in electrical energy, not efficient but this is just to demonstrate >>>>> energy and mass involved) we are talking about 30 tons of water coming in >>>>> and 30 tons of hydrogen and oxygen coming out of that 6000 sq feet >>>>> warehouse every single week. You get similar numbers when you use >>>>> reactions >>>>> with large enthalpies that could use the heat more directly. >>>>> >>>>> Please take a look at my thread where I show pics of the building and >>>>> the address. Google map it. Go at the street level. You can see it is a >>>>> commercial area but not at all an industrial zoned area. There is >>>>> absolutely no way to have swimming pools worth of water outside to >>>>> exchange >>>>> it with, there is no way to bring in 30 tons of chemical material every >>>>> few >>>>> days, process it, packing it in such a small warehouse in particular >>>>> without causing huge problems with the other businesses around (that are >>>>> all retailers), the owners of the building or the authorities. >>>>> >>>>> How much personnel does it take to process these quantities of >>>>> material? >>>>> >>>>> The warehouse also needs to host the 1 MW plant and so on. >>>>> >>>>> I'm still doing calculations for venting the place but I bet you will >>>>> need hurricane winds strength ventilation to remove the heat. >>>>> >>>>> But if you use water that is much more efficient way to exchange heat >>>>> you will need to move 1 ton of hot water every second outside the building >>>>> (and bring in an equivalent cold water amount). That is almost 90,000 tons >>>>> of water every day. >>>>> Talk about the water bill or even what it will take to get that water >>>>> from the faucet or down a sink. >>>>> >>>>> As I said there is no way to recycle this amount of water without >>>>> having enormous quantities of pipes (we can do the calculations how big >>>>> the >>>>> piping system needs to be) or swimming pools of steaming water outside the >>>>> building. Where in the parking lot? >>>>> >>>>> Please use common sense and some basic physics and you will see how >>>>> absurd the situation is. >>>>> >>>>> Giovanni >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jack Cole <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Adrian, >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually, people asked AR if the process was endothermic and he said >>>>>> "Yes." When later asked if the heat that was not used was collected in >>>>>> water, he responded "Yes." >>>>>> >>>>>> People should consider that they are engaging in crowd sourced excuse >>>>>> making for him. He just has to sit back and wait for someone to suggest >>>>>> a >>>>>> possible explanation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Imagine how the response (or non-response) may have been different if >>>>>> an open ended question had been asked (e.g., what took place in the >>>>>> customer side with the heat?). >>>>>> >>>>>> In the case of the actual questions that were asked, a "Yes" can lend >>>>>> itself to future contradiction. For example, "Oh, I must have >>>>>> misunderstood the question. Language differences. he, he, he" >>>>>> >>>>>> Jack >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 10:10 PM a.ashfield <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, you should read what Rossi actually said before making a >>>>>>> statement like that. Rossi said that the customer's process was >>>>>>> endothermic and the excess heat beyond that was vented. He didn't add >>>>>>> how >>>>>>> much was by air or radiation and how much through cooling water going to >>>>>>> the drain. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/14/2016 8:34 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Daniel, >>>>>>> The main discussion we had in the last few days was about where the >>>>>>> heat is dumped. This is basic thermodynamics not sophisticated arguments >>>>>>> about Coulomb barrier shielding and so on. >>>>>>> Rossi claiming that the energy was used by chemical reactions and >>>>>>> therefore this why it didn't leave a thermal signature is bs. >>>>>>> Plain bs. No field of expertise needed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 8:21 PM, Daniel Rocha <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What field of expertise? This kind of argument is also used to >>>>>>>> "show" that cold fusion is bullshit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2016-08-14 19:35 GMT-03:00 Giovanni Santostasi < >>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a PhD in Physics so I understand the basics of energy, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Peter Gluck >>>> Cluj, Romania >>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Peter Gluck >> Cluj, Romania >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >> > >
