AA, even an ERV can be mistaken which everyone needs to realize.  If Rossi is 
indeed supplying 1 MW to his customer then he needs to be compensated.  On the 
other hand, a significant amount of evidence is being presented that this may 
not be true.

I have been developing a possible scenario which hopefully might explain how 
the measurements are incorrect.  Recently I referred to Bernoulli's principle 
as perhaps getting into the act to muck up the meter readings.  I now believe I 
may have found out how to apply that principle in order to achieve that goal.

My present understanding of Bernoulli's principle would suggest the following 
connection if I wanted to cheat the measurement results.  It is necessary to 
place the temperature gauge at a location that is at the most extreme position 
located away from the main single pipe heading toward the customer.  For 
example, if 6 ECATS are feeding into one of the parallel collection pipes I 
would put the thermometer at the output of the first in the series.  Steam from 
that location would have to travel furthest before it reaches the main feed 
pipe and thus vapor leaving that nearby ECAT would be moving at the slowest 
velocity relative to the main final pipe stream.

This location is ideal because the steam(wet or dry) is moving at the slowest 
velocity there.  As the flow moves down the collection pipe it encounters more 
ECAT sources which force it to speed up.  The pressure and temperature of the 
fluid drops as it gains velocity by flowing through a restriction.  In this 
case the restriction is generated by the additional sources adding to the total 
flow through a fixed pipe diameter.

Bernoulli's principle is a conservation of energy relationship.  In this case 
as the fluid moves faster it gain kinetic energy which must be extracted from 
the internal energy of the fluid.  That is why the pressure and temperature 
falls as more equal sources are added to the stream.

The bottom line is that it is necessary for both the pressure and the 
temperature gauges to be located at the same point if an accurate state reading 
is to be obtained.  When we eventually recieve a diagram showing the spatial 
arrangement of the gauges it is important that both temperature and pressure 
gauges are co located if we are to believe that the steam is dry.   If we 
notice that the temperature gauge is removed from the pressure gauge then it is 
time to focus on the Bernoulli effect.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: a.ashfield <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2016 11:08 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation


    Possibly the answers were too "secret" like the piping layout.
    
    
    
On 8/24/2016 9:52 AM, Jed Rothwell      wrote:
    
    
      
        
          
a.ashfield <[email protected]>            wrote:
          

            
              
 The ERV is well                enough qualified that he is less likely to be 
confused                than say Murray.
              
            
            

            
            
That cannot be true. Murray asked critical questions in              Exhibit 5. 
The ERV could not even answer them. He did not              even try. Murray 
showed that the test is bunk, and the ERV              said nothing because 
cannot think of any more excuses or              evasions.
            

            
            
 
            
              
 He is the only                independent judge there.
            
            

            
            
He is not independent. He is Rossi's puppet. His data              is a crude 
fraud, and his claims are absurd and              impossible. That is why I.H. 
is suing him -- as they              should.
            

            
            
- Jed
            

            
          
        
      
    
    
  

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