On Jan 26, 2006, at 9:11 AM, Keith Nagel wrote:
Nowhere in the document do I find language which clearly states
that this is a science oriented discussion list.
In http://amasci.com/weird/wvort.html#rules:
"The Vortex-L list was originally created for discussions of
professional research into fluid vortex/cavitation devices which
exhibit anomalous energy effects (ie: the inventions of Schaeffer,
Huffman, Griggs, and Potapov among others.) Currently it has evolved
into a discussion on "taboo" physics reports and research. SKEPTICS
BEWARE, the topics wander from Cold Fusion, to reports of excess
energy in Free Energy devices, gravity generation and detection,
reports of theoretically impossible phenomena, and all sorts of
supposedly crackpot claims. Before you subscribe, please see the
rules below. This is a public, lightly- moderated smartlist list.
There is no charge, but donations towards expenses are recommended."
What I do find
are specific passages such as
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Vortex-L is for those who see great value in removing their usual
mental
filters by provisionally accepting the validity of "impossible"
phenomena
in order to test them.
Testing implies use of scientific method. What is avoided is the
*stereotypical* scientific method that depends on an authoritative
approach. Limiting scope to existing authoritative sources is a sure
way to not make the kinds of advances in energy that are so clearly
needed. The main theme of this list has always been science
anomalies, especially in the energy field, starting with the Potapov
device and CF. Given all the publications at LENR-CANR.org, it is
getting so CF is barely in the anomaly category, so maybe it should
be dropped. 8^)
It seems to me that if there is a problem it is the lack of people
actually doing any real experimentation or even basic theory. Or...
maybe it is just the inability to refrain from comment on off topic
things. However, *we* have the right to complain about OT stuff, and
get it booted off, so it is we who are responsible for letting it get
out of hand.
Horace Heffner
