Nigel Dyer wrote:
We had a very good presentation of Browns Gas by the Hurtaks at the
last water conference although no overunity was claimed, just that it
was able to improve the efficiency of an internal combustion energy.
This looks to be very similar to a classic Browns gas setup
Nigel
Yes - the infamous "dry cell" or common-manifold multiplate electrolysis
system, which created a stir on a few forums several years back ...
thousands were sold, and maybe a dozen are still in service. But that
argument is still being used (that the value of adding a tiny amount of
hydrogen comes from increasing the efficiency of burning hydrocarbons in
an ICE).
It is a valid argument, that much is true... but it was over-hyped,
since the cost effectiveness of such a system is minimal without
something more that has been demonstrated so far. I do know of a couple
of large diesel installations in the Caribbean using the CAT 100L
engines, where "HHO" is used to augment diesel - but there is risk
involved and the payback is much longer than was promoted.
The real reason for keeping an eye on these inventors like Zografos -
even though he may or may not be the real deal - is that the obvious
connection to LENR means that someone may eventually hit on a technique
for getting large gain. This particular demo is almost exactly what one
would expect to see - if that big breakthrough has been made. When it
happens, however, the inventor will be more than happy to let skeptics
take real data.
It is easy to imagine that the electrode used by Zografos could in fact
be both splitting hydrogen and oxygen from water and at the same time -
densifying the hydrogen into UDH, which is almost what Randell Mills
claims to be doing with his device, using an electric arc. RF would be
highly preferable to an electric arc.
If that was happening, then the UV emission should be intense. Yet we
have an open air demo with not protection. The most convincing detail of
success would be if Zografos suffered from intense sunburn... which does
not appear to be the case.
However, given that he appears to be a showman in the best AR tradition,
look for his next demo to include a makeup artist and a red-faced
inventor <g>
