Let the semantics of the theorists begin…. Arrgggh. That in this complex 
environment the atom ecology and resulting behaviours including fusion is more 
complex than can be semantically dumbed down to one moniker is what is 
described in this paper. Theorists will always look for brain numbing debates 
over minutia while pioneering technologists are happy with helping hints of in 
what general direction one might choose to go next.  

 

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:35 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Holmlid.

 

The first reaction to occure is meson production which as nothing to do with 
fusion:

 

Holmlid writes:

 

Quote

The time variation of the collector signals was initially assumed to be due to 
time-of-flight of the ejected particles from the target to the collectors. Even 
the relatively low particle velocity of 10–20 MeV u-1 found with this 
assumption [ 
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895#pone.0169895.ref021>
 21– 
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895#pone.0169895.ref023>
 23] is not explainable as originating in ordinary nuclear fusion. The highest 
energy particles from normal D+D fusion are neutrons with 14.1 MeV and protons 
with 14.7 MeV [ 
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895#pone.0169895.ref057>
 57]. The high-energy protons are only formed by the D + 3He reaction step, 
which is relatively unlikely and for example not observed in our laser-induced 
D+D fusion study in D(0) [ 
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895#pone.0169895.ref014>
 14]. Any high-energy neutrons would not be observed in the present 
experiments. Thus, ordinary fusion D+D cannot give the observed particle 
velocities. Further, similar particle velocities are obtained also from the 
laser-induced processes in p(0) as seen in Figs  
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895#pone-0169895-g004>
 4,  
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895#pone-0169895-g006>
 6 and  
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895#pone-0169895-g007>
 7 etc, where no ordinary fusion process can take place. Thus, it is apparent 
that the particle energy observed is derived from other nuclear processes than 
ordinary fusion.

 

Like any good scientist, Holmlid has gotten over his preconception of fusion as 
the energy source for these sub atomic particles. In other words, the primary 
reaction of LENR has nothing to do with fusion or neutrons. Kaon production 
points to a amplified weak force decay process working to decay protons and 
neutrons providing a initial energy potential of a giga electron volts per 
reaction as all the mass of these nucleons are converted to mesons. There is a 
huge amount of energy consumed in meson production, and a trifling amount to 
heat.

 

As a secondary reaction produced by sub atomic particles, muon and pion fusion 
occurs away from the primary weak force decay reaction.

 

 

 

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net 
<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> > wrote:

 

This is an extremely important paper, even if it is incremental to earlier 
work. There had been an open question about the necessity of deuterium, as 
opposed to protium - but now that is answered.

Holmlid's body of work going back a decade is by far the most advanced in LENR. 
This is the future of the field, and it looks very much like a merger of ICF 
hot fusion with cold fusion.

However, we must recognize that Holmlid does show both hot fusion and 
meson/muon production processes with Deuterium - so essentially only the 
proton-based reactions are non-fusion. By implication the net energy with 
protons is far less - and he only claims net gain with deuterium.

Here is the relevant quote for that: "MeV particles are ejected by 
laser-induced processes in both D(0) and p(0). Also, normal D+D fusion 
processes giving 4He and 3He ions were shown to be initiated by a relatively 
weak pulsed laser [using deuterium fuel]. Laser-induced nuclear fusion in D(0) 
gives heat above break-even, as reported in Ref. [15 
<http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895#pone.0169895.ref015>
 ]. END = note that Holmlid does NOT say that protium does not give heat above 
breakeven, only that deuterium does provide it -- but the lack with protium is 
implied.

Thus we can summarize by saying that in both cases mesons/muons are seen. But 
with deuterium there is also hot fusion, in addition to the mesons, and this 
provides the excess heat, which is not the case with protons. The 24 MeV gamma 
is replaced by a particle flux in the range of 20 MeV indicating that 4 
deuterons fuse into 2 alphas. Sound familiar? That is reminiscent of Takahasi's 
tetrahedral theory. 

However, ordinary D+D fusion reactions only give an energy up to 3.0 MeV in the 
first reaction step, and up to 14.7 MeV in the second step of the reactions and 
this apparently avoids the 24 MeV gamma. Thus, nuclear processes take place 
with deuterium which are indeed a new version of hot fusion --with a new kind 
of multi-particle branching where gammas do not occur. 

The (possible) reason the proton reaction is comparatively weak despite the 
massive decay energy of mesons is that decay occurs so far away from the 
reactor that the energy cannot be captured. The particles can decay hundreds of 
meters away on average.

Jones

Axil Axil wrote:

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895

 


Mesons from Laser-Induced Processes in Ultra-Dense Hydrogen H(0)


 

A new paper from Holmlid where he now deduces that LENR cannot be a fusion 
based reaction because the energy of the mesons produced are far to great. I 
respect a man that can change his mind under the weight of experimental 
evidence.

 

The hydrogen nanoparticle that produces the mesons are 3 to 6 planes long.

 

 

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