Bob,

Here is a simple but meaningful experiment you may want to try.

A quick search for a common product in this geometry (~.175 mm or 7 mil) turns up the film used in automobile safety glass lamination. This is typically 7 mil Polyester Film (Mylar). This film is transparent and not expensive. However, as you suggest, the strongest ZPE photon could have a different wavelength when propagating in such a film and a different thickness would be better.

A proper combination of features would lend itself to a simple experiment which would indicate whether or not virtual photons from ZPE can form. It would depend on whether or not virtual ZPE photons are reflected efficiently by a mirrored metal. The DCE effect has shown that this is possible.

Start with a Mylar film roll of several hundred layers which has been rewound and interleaved with alternating layers of mirrored aluminum foil. The foil would tend to internally reflect photons of that wavelength preferentially due to geometric resonance at its wavelength. If virtual photons are present, we could see semi-coherence and a resulting physical anomaly. I think there is a decent chance to see an anomaly.

If the temperature of the roll went up or down by even a single degree, compared to ambient, this would indicate some conversion of virtual photons to real. I would actually expect the temperature of the layered roll to drop slightly, rather than rise, since the energy of the favored photon in this case is less than ambient. One problem is determining a proper baseline for ambient.


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Jones –

Interesting item and related comments.


Additional comments:

 1. The wave length of E-M radiation in the solid state is not the
    same as in a vacuum.
 2. The CalPhysics item does not address the energy and angular
    momentum associated with nuclear entities, atomic entities and
    photons, nor how the uncertainty principle of Planck applies to
    the transition of spin angular momentum in integral units of
    h/2pie in any system.  Their discussion carefully avoids spin
    energy and related angular momentum.   There may be no quantum
    fuzziness associated with spin. angular momentum and related energy.



Addressing these questions may provide understanding why LENR does not entail radiation associated with high energy particles and annihilation reactions.


*Subject: *Re: [Vo]:ZPE as the superset of Dark Energy

A practical detail... assuming that the 1.7 THz phase transition is the peak energy of ZPE photons which can interact in a mechanical conversion system in order to harness dark energy (which is one possible interpretation of the CalPhysics info)... 1.7 terahertz = 176.3 wavelength in micrometers

The practical question becomes - is there a way to utilize this dimension as in an LENR experiment, so that part of the gain (or all of the gain) can derive from dark energy? This is obviously a geometry which much larger than nanometer, for instance. But these days, everyone wants to focus on nanometer. That could be a mistake.

Obviously, a photon in the Casimir geometry (2-20 nm) corresponds to EUV wavelengths ... and this size discrepancy may explain why the Jovion patent discussed in the reference below does not work. There is no coupling.

That patent is premised on what they are calling the "Casimir-Lamb Shift" which indicates that certain electron orbitals in atoms are lower in energy inside a Casimir cavity than outside.

Perhaps the widespread emphasis on "nano" has been misplaced and we should be thinking about how to implement reactants in a comparatively huge geometry, which is slightly below the one millimeter scale.

However, it could also be the case that one needs both scales in the same experiment. That would be new territory to explore.



    From the CalPhysics site... (paraphrased and annotated to make a
    point)

    A major discovery in astrophysics in the late 1990s was the
    finding from supernovae redshift-luminosity observations that the
    expansion of the universe is accelerating. This led to the concept
    of dark energy, which has been labeled as a resurrection of
    Einstein's cosmological constant. The universe now appears to
    consist of about 70 percent dark energy, 25 percent dark matter
    and five percent ordinary matter.

    Zero-point energy can be defined as having the apparent desired
    property of driving an accelerated expansion, and thus having the
    requisite properties of dark energy, but to an absurdly greater
    degree than is required.... but recent work by Christian Beck and
    Michael Mackey may have resolved the disparity. If their work is
    accurate, then dark energy is basically nothing other than ZPE or
    a superset/subset.

    They propose that a phase transition occurs such that zero-point
    photons below a frequency of about 1.7 THz are gravitationally
    active whereas above that they are not. If true, the dark energy
    problem is solved: dark energy is the low frequency
    gravitationally active component of zero-point energy.

    The 1.7 THz phase transition value is an important marker and
    consistent with measurable QED effects such as the Casimir effect,
    the Lamb shift, etc. The proposed phase transition value should be
    testable in the near future. It is in range which comes up in the
    studies of SPP (surface plasmons). NASA has done recent R&D work
    using terahertz radiation in a slightly higher THz range on a
    nickel lattice loaded with hydrogen, in order to induce LENR.

    Perhaps NASA should have aimed lower and/or perhaps Holmlid will
    find access to the new THz lasers which are coming out in this
    exact range (which seems to be favored in terms of efficiency).

    From: http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html
    <http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html> with comments added






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