In this old thread, we discussed BECs with Edmund Storms. He unsubscribed from Vortex soon after this interaction, hopefully I wasn't the one who drove him off.
Anyways, at the time I did not have access to Chubb's theory but now Jed has uploaded his Ion Band State Theory (IBST) paper onto Lenr-Canr.org It is compelling. But I am disheartened that Jones Beene said it is above his pay grade. Now I think it is two layers above my pay grade. It seems to cover all the bases and it uses conventional physics. http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ChubbSRconvention.pdf On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> NO!!! That is not the issue Cold fusion produces He4 without radiation. >> > ***There have been some observances of radiation. Not very much, but > some. > > > > >> Hot fusion produces a mixture of energetic fragments of He.These are two >> entirely different processes producing different products. The name is only >> used to distinguish between the two different processes. >> > ***I think I see where the difference lies. Let's say we had a million > balloons all filled with air, and around those million balloons there is a > lattice of tinker toys such that each balloon is boxed in. Now, in the > middle of all those balloons, you pop one of them. Would you be able to > hear the explosion? Probably not, because the emitted energy would be > absorbed by the lattice & other baloons. Similarly, with billions of H > atoms trapped in Palladium lattices, when 2 of them fuse, the emitted > energy gets absorbed by the lattice. That's how we end up with > transmutations. > > But if you had a million balloons in a big room (with no tinker toy > lattice) and you exploded 50,000 of them at one time, would you hear the > explosion? Yes. The emitted energy would not be fully absorbed by the > surrounding matter, and indeed could even lead to further explosions & > emissions. That's the difference between cold fusion (tinker toy lattice, > only very few fusion events) and hot fusion (no tinker toy lattice, > thousands of fusion events leading up to a large emission of energy). > > Imposing the conclusions of hot fusion emitted energy onto cold fusion > emitted energy is where your observation loses its validity. > > > > >

