In this old thread, we discussed BECs with Edmund Storms.   He unsubscribed
from Vortex soon after this interaction, hopefully I wasn't the one who
drove him off.

Anyways, at the time I did not have access to Chubb's theory but now Jed
has uploaded his Ion Band State Theory (IBST)  paper onto Lenr-Canr.org

It is compelling.   But I am disheartened that Jones Beene said it is above
his pay grade.   Now I think it is two layers above my pay grade.   It
seems to cover all the bases and it uses conventional physics.


http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ChubbSRconvention.pdf

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:20 PM, Kevin O'Malley <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Edmund Storms <[email protected]>
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>> NO!!! That is not the issue Cold fusion produces He4 without radiation.
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> ***There have been some observances of radiation.  Not very much, but
> some.
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>> Hot fusion produces a mixture of energetic fragments of He.These are two
>> entirely different processes producing different products. The name is only
>> used to distinguish between the two different processes.
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> ***I think I see where the difference lies.  Let's say we had a million
> balloons all filled with air, and around those million balloons there is a
> lattice of tinker toys such that each balloon is boxed in.  Now, in the
> middle of all those balloons, you pop one of them.  Would you be able to
> hear the explosion?  Probably not, because the emitted energy would be
> absorbed by the lattice & other baloons.  Similarly, with billions of H
> atoms trapped in Palladium lattices, when 2 of them fuse, the emitted
> energy gets absorbed by the lattice.  That's how we end up with
> transmutations.
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> But if you had a million balloons in a big room (with no tinker toy
> lattice) and you exploded 50,000 of them at one time, would you hear the
> explosion?  Yes.  The emitted energy would not be fully absorbed by the
> surrounding matter, and indeed could even lead to further explosions &
> emissions.  That's the difference between cold fusion (tinker toy lattice,
> only very few fusion events) and hot fusion (no tinker toy lattice,
> thousands of fusion events leading up to a large emission of energy).
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> Imposing the conclusions of hot fusion emitted energy onto cold fusion
> emitted energy is where your observation loses its validity.
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