More on gamma from LENR http://coldfusion3.com/blog/smoking-gun-of-lenr-fleischmann-project-results-duplicated-in-one-day-celani-cell-verified-as-lenr-device
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > In an experimental series performed by Piantelli, he observed the > production of either heat or gamma radiation but not both at the same time, > if memory serves. > > > > From the demo of the first one liter Rossi reactor during the time at > startup when the lattice was cold, a massive radiation burst appeared for > a second or two. From this, I deduce that the energy production mechanism > will generate large amounts of radiation if the lattice is cold and the > phonons present in the lattice are not energetic enough. > > > > One problem of that early design was the generation of bursts of radiation > during startup and shutdown. I assume that the lattice was cold at those > times. > > > > Rossi was greatly concerned by these radiation bursts, and changed his > design so that an external heater warmed the nickel lattice before the > reaction begins. > > > > This tells me that there is a second quantum mechanical reaction that > converts the radiation generated in the metal atom’s nucleus to thermal > energy within the lattice. > > > > The lack of radioactive decay products after the Rossi reactor is shut > down also speaks to a radiation thermalization mechanism rather than a > radiation suppression mechanism. > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> MORE... >> >> In this Focardi >> <http://newenergytimes.com/v2/library/2004/2004Focardi-EvidenceOfElectromagneticRadiation.pdf> >> experiment, >> when gamma radiation was generated, excess was not generated. This leads to >> the observation that the Polariton BEC is the mechanism that transforms the >> nuclear energy produced in the LENR reaction into heat. >> >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Gamma radiation does appear when a BEC is not formed between the SPPs >>> involved in a LENR reaction. Yes, the LENR reaction can produce gamma >>> radiation when the SPPs are not pumped to a level sufficient to establish a >>> Polariton BEC. This is why a cold LENR reaction will produce Gamma >>> radiation and a Hot LENR reaction will not produce Gamma radiation. >>> >>> See >>> >>> http://newenergytimes.com/v2/library/2004/2004Focardi-Eviden >>> ceOfElectromagneticRadiation.pdf >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 4:47 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Harry, You seem to be suggesting that the experiments in France could >>>> be operating by (inadvertently) storing applied energy in nuclei for later >>>> release - at least as an alternate explanation for the two runs which >>>> showed gain after months of what looks very much like a battery being >>>> charged. >>>> >>>> As unlikely as this possibility may sound at first to a proponent of >>>> cold fusion - the mechanism has not been eliminated. In fact, it may be >>>> more physical than suggesting nuclear fusion without radiation, since it >>>> involves "one less miracle." >>>> >>>> For instance, the weak nuclear force has two poorly understood >>>> properties - weak hypercharge and weak isospin -- either of which (or both) >>>> arguably could be boosted or pumped up by electrical current flow (in >>>> palladium electrolysis) over time and then the accumulated energy released >>>> later. >>>> >>>> In fact, the weak force could even supply helium (which does not come >>>> from fusion but from alpha decay of the heavier palladium isotope after >>>> months of "hypercharging" ;-) >>>> >>>> This "weak force pumping" rationale, having its main validity based on >>>> our lack of understanding of the weak force - indicates how little is known >>>> about the underlying mechanisms for the unpredictable gain of cold fusion. >>>> There could be many. The appearance of helium should never lead to the >>>> reflexive conclusion of fusion, that is- when gamma radiation is absent. >>>> >>>> BTW - In terms of defining an anomaly such as the one in question, >>>> "average" gain may not be as meaningful as peak intermittent gain, but in >>>> terms of a parameter which is leading towards commercialization - it is >>>> really the only meaningful metric. Is there any indication anywhere that >>>> LENR is closer to commercialization than it was in 1989 ? >>>> H LV wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Jed Rothwell wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jones Beene wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The intractable problem in cold fusion is that this "hero effort" - >>>>>> the very best result to have occurred in 28 years was itself little more >>>>>> than a yawner. People tend to forget that this result (almost 300 MJ of >>>>>> gain) was statistically very close to a null result in total (as an >>>>>> average) and it did not point the way to a useful device. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Average" is not meaningful in this context. The experiment produced >>>>> no heat for a while, then it turned on and produced ~100 W for 30 days in >>>>> one test and 70 days in another. Computing the average including the time >>>>> before it turned on would be like computing the average speed of an >>>>> airplane including the time it is sitting at the gate and the time waiting >>>>> in line to take off. >>>>> >>>>> There is no energy storage during the time before it turns on. We know >>>>> there is none because the energy balance is zero, and because you cannot >>>>> store that much energy. >>>>> >>>>> - Jed >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> "You cannot store that much energy" is working hypothesis. >>>> That much energy could be stored in nuclei. >>>> Is it such a leap to go from speculating about how energy can leave the >>>> nucleus by imaging the nucleus as coupled to the lattice, to speculating >>>> how energy can enter the nucleus by imagining another coupling mechanism? >>>> Imagine a pendulum clock designed to work in reverse where externally >>>> driven oscillations of the pendulum from outside the clock serve to wind >>>> the clock up. >>>> >>>> Harry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
