The classic case is the Aztecs.   They were taken out over a few short
months in a military engagement from a vastly outnumbered force, not by

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 5:20 AM, Brian Ahern <> wrote:

> The Spanish had cholera. It was 100 times as effective as gunpowder.
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> *From:* Kevin O'Malley <>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 7, 2017 7:04 PM
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned
> One of the cool things about cold fusion in a 500 year outlook is that it
> makes for a very ineffective weapon.   Even fire is a more effective weapon.
> You know why potatoes became a crop of choice in Europe?   Because when a
> king's army sieged your castle and burned your crops, there were still
> potatoes in the ground that you could eat and you wouldn't starve to death.
> Why did the Spanish overtake a continent with a few thousand men while the
> Vikings were vanquished 500 years earlier?   Because the Spanish had
> FIREarms.   They had harnessed gunpowder (for evil purposes, albeit).
> In 500 years there will be LENR cars, widespread cheap desalination, and
> Cold Fusion powered spacecraft.
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Jed Rothwell <>
> wrote:
>> I wrote:
>>> If I succeed at promoting cold fusion and it becomes generally used, I
>>> shall play an important role in changing the world more than Marxism and
>>> Capitalism combined.
>> That sounds like hyperbole, but I mean it. I think that Marxism and
>> capitalism are both on their way out. As we have discussed here, I think
>> robots and intelligent computers will compel us to adapt a new form of
>> economy that is neither capitalist or communist.
>> Capitalism began around the year 1500, gradually replacing feudalism.
>> Communism began around 1850. Both are now in their twilight. I expect that
>> by 2100 we will have a new economic system. Unlike every previous system it
>> will not mainly depend on the exchange of human labor for goods and
>> services. It remains to be seen what it will be like. I hope it will be
>> better for everyone, and better for the ecology, but you never know how
>> things will turn out.
>> If cold fusion succeeds I expect it will last much longer than 500 years,
>> and ultimately it will have a larger impact than capitalism had. If the
>> human race survives for millions of years -- as I hope it will -- over the
>> next few million years cold fusion should have roughly the same impact as
>> the discovery of fire. Unless something better is discovered.
>> People who have not read history have the notion that institutions such
>> as capitalism, nation states, universities, corporations and so on have
>> been part of society forever and they will always be with us. Actually,
>> they are recent inventions and there is no reason to think they will
>> continue centuries into the future. They will continue as long as people
>> find them useful.
>> - Jed

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