What went through my mind was that Axil seemed a bit like a latter-day Jules 
Verne.  Jules predicted nuclear subs that went to sea 82 years later.

On the other hand, maybe Axil needs a little more Li in his reactor. 😊

Bob Cook

Bob Cook

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From: Brian Ahern<mailto:ahern_br...@msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 5:44 AM
To: vortex-l<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

This note from Axil reminds me of my friends postings when he was in the manic 
phase when all things seem possible and easy to obtain.

From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 4:40 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

My view of LENR is predicated on the control of the quarks inside of matter. If 
these quarks can be manipulated and managed, control of matter at any arbitrary 
distance might one day be possible.

Atomic weapons could be disabled at a distance when the fissile elements are 
transmuted into non fissile ones by a muon beam. The atmosphere of venus could 
be modified to remove the Co2 so that Venus could be made habitable.

The core of Mars could be reactivated with nuclear fire to restore the magnetic 
shield that once protected its atmosphere in the first step at terraforming 
Mars into someplace that can be colonized by mankind. Then Co2 could be created 
to start a heated atmosphere to heat Mars to livable temperatures.

The there is near light speed spacecraft engines that become possible to build 
that are driven by bear light speed subatomic particles.

The energy source that the work of Holmlid is exploring might prove to make 
interstellar travel practicable. Holmlid first assumed that the energy produced 
by the reaction he was studding was some sort of hot fusion reaction activated 
by laser ignition. But when Holmlid studied the type of sub atomic particles 
that were being generated, he recognized that fusion could not generate the 
huge amount of power that the reaction was producing. For example, Holmlid 
detected Kaon triplet generation. He postulates that two protons are being 
destabilized into decay to produce three kaons and 390 MeV of binding energy. 
This very same proton decay reaction was one of the target reaction searched 
for by the Super-Kamiokande proton decay detector to prove that protons must 
decay in support of grand unification supersymmetric theory.

The proton is assumed to be absolutely stable in the Standard Model. However, 
the Grand Unified Theories (GUTs) predict that protons can decay into lighter 
energetic charged particles such as electrons, muons, pions or others which can 
be observed. Kamiokande helps to rule out some of the theories. 
Super-Kamiokande is currently the largest detector for observation of proton 

The proton decay action could increase the energy yield by 100,000 over what 
was postulated in the Bussard ramjet interstellar system.

The Bussard ramjet is a theoretical method of interstellar spacecraft 
propulsion proposed in 1960 by the physicist Robert W. Bussard. Bussard 
proposed a ramjet variant of a fusion rocket capable of reasonable interstellar 
travel, using enormous electromagnetic fields (ranging from kilometers to many 
thousands of kilometers in diameter) as a ram scoop to collect and compress 
hydrogen from the interstellar medium.

When proton decay is used as a power source for the Ramjet, once the hydrogen 
is collected, it is isotopically purified and the deuterium is stored in a 
separate container. The purified hydrogen then enters storage to even out the 
collection of interstellar gas. This storage strategy will enable the ramjet to 
maneuver freely in space without concern for variations in the density of 
residual hydrogen throughout space. From storage the hydrogen gas is metered 
into a Holmlid reaction chamber were the hydrogen is ignited into a high energy 
plasma via the catalyzed reaction.

Since the continued propulsion of a proton powered ramjet spaceship is 
dependent on interstellar hydrogen, the nature of interstellar hydrogen is the 
main issue of concern when designing such a spaceship. Two aspects of 
particular interest are the overall density and the isotopic composition of the 
interstellar hydrogen. The overall density controls the rate at which proton 
reactions can take place relative to the craft's speed and the size of the 
scoop's area. The isotopic composition determines which reaction pathway is 
best to use

The interstellar density of hydrogen is 0.86 atoms/cm3. At a minimum, the 
energy gain relationship determined by Holmlid  was found to be 390 MeV per 
each diproton reaction (two hydrogen atoms). For deuterium fusion, only 10 MeV 
can be generated per reaction. In the proton reaction, The remainder of the 
proton mass and associated electrons are used as reaction mass. From this info, 
the scoop volume might be calculated as of function of spacecraft speed. The 
faster you go the more hydrogen that you can harvest.

There is a minimum takeoff speed required before the sustainable energy 
relationship is met and the scoop volume may be reduced as the Ramjet 

There is more mass/energy content in deuterium which is about 1 atom out of 
5000 captured.

When fusion produces power for the Ramjet, only deuterium can be used. When 
proton decay provides power to the Ramjet, all hydrogen isotopes can be used 
and much of the energy content of the protons can be converted into energy.

Holmlid uses a potassium doped Shell 105 ethylene catalyst with graphene as a 
quantum mechanical template on an iridium substrate to produce ultra-dense 
hydrogen via a quantum mechanical effect call Rydberg blockade. Once formed, 
metallic hydrogen can be excited into nuclear disassociation through the 
application of an EMF stimulus.

I like the proton decay reaction as a basis to support a light speed capable 
interstellar motor. As discovered by Holmlid, LENR produces sub atomic 
particles, mostly muons and hydrogen nuclear fragments moving at ¾ light 
speeds. And even better, LENR produces its own energy from muon based catalyzed 
fusion as a side reaction. This fusion energy would be used to sustain the 
electromagnetic hydrogen collection fields.

For those with an open mind, taking the work of Holmlid seriously might be the 
first step in reaching the stars.

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Che 
<comandantegri...@gmail.com<mailto:comandantegri...@gmail.com>> wrote:

They don't call Cold Fusion 'The New Fire', for no reason.

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Frank Znidarsic 
<fznidar...@aol.com<mailto:fznidar...@aol.com>> wrote:
That's good Jed.  If you have read my work cold fusion is a step towards 
control of all of the natural forces.   I will have the same effect as 
Oersted's discovery of electromagnetic induction.

If cold fusion succeeds I expect it will last much longer than 500 years, and 
ultimately it will have a larger impact than capitalism had. If the human race 
survives for millions of years -- as I hope it will --

-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com<mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>>
To: Vortex <vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>>
Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned
I wrote:

If I succeed at promoting cold fusion and it becomes generally used, I shall 
play an important role in changing the world more than Marxism and Capitalism 

That sounds like hyperbole, but I mean it. I think that Marxism and capitalism 
are both on their way out. As we have discussed here, I think robots and 
intelligent computers will compel us to adapt a new form of economy that is 
neither capitalist or communist.

Capitalism began around the year 1500, gradually replacing feudalism. Communism 
began around 1850. Both are now in their twilight. I expect that by 2100 we 
will have a new economic system. Unlike every previous system it will not 
mainly depend on the exchange of human labor for goods and services. It remains 
to be seen what it will be like. I hope it will be better for everyone, and 
better for the ecology, but you never know how things will turn out.

If cold fusion succeeds I expect it will last much longer than 500 years, and 
ultimately it will have a larger impact than capitalism had. If the human race 
survives for millions of years -- as I hope it will -- over the next few 
million years cold fusion should have roughly the same impact as the discovery 
of fire. Unless something better is discovered.

People who have not read history have the notion that institutions such as 
capitalism, nation states, universities, corporations and so on have been part 
of society forever and they will always be with us. Actually, they are recent 
inventions and there is no reason to think they will continue centuries into 
the future. They will continue as long as people find them useful.

- Jed

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