Indeed I am confused by the Lion which is why I am helping perform some careful control experiments to sort it all out. Looking first of course to hot copper oxide chemistry as the obvious factor that is clearly engaged. Cooked and now cooking are quite a number of close approximations of the Lion device and conditions, all sans the fusion fuel. Soon some fuelled replications will be in the ‘easy bake oven’… The lonely overstuffed arm chair has been jilted for the slimmer lab stool. There are sound cold fusion paths in these very hot deuterated environs where the elusive aspects of atom-ecology can be studied. Stay tuned as the data will soon be able to speak for itself rather than being represented by the soothsayers and tea leave readers.
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 9:47 PM To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:LION experiments I wonder if "the fervent practice of conflation" means that the fusion meme that has been the mainstay of LENR theory for so long should now be retooled to somehow fit into an as of yet unfathomable understanding of the LION reactor meltdown. Russ is among those who are clearly confused by the LION reactor meltdown. Here is his analysis as follows: Melting Miasma - The intact Kanthal wire is a witness to the temperature not reaching the melting point of kanthal which is listed as being 1500 C. The alumina block melts above 2000 C, the quartz melts at just under 1700 C. So if the quartz melted likely the kanthal which was in contact with the quartz might be expected to melt, not seen. Surely the alumina foam which was outside of the quartz melting at 2000 C would not 'melt' without the intervening kanthal showing melting which would occur at 1500 C. If during the oxidation of the copper that is clearly apparent, that very hot copper oxidation process was capable of perhaps breaking the quartz and that copper oxide invaded the surrounding materials it might well have bonding with all. Copper oxide melts at 1326 C. Copper melts at 1085 C. Nickel melts at 1455 C, don't forget the tiny 2.5 mm diameter 10 micron thick nickel pads with the diamonds attached to them that are the purported fuel are clearly seen and did NOT melt. Nor did the stainless steel bolt that plugged the reactor tube, stainless steels melt between 1400-1500 C depending on the alloy. All theses known materials and melting points bear witness to many temperatures that might have been reached in the hot 'reaction' zone. In the 'dummy' test runs conducted at Alan's, the maker of the tube furnace test bed, at 1000 C. in these dummy runs without any anomalous fuels, aka the nickel diamond discs, the aggressive hot chemistry of the copper oxide and is very clearly seen. It has fused/bonded itself to the quartz for example. The silver foil that underlaid the copper wire winding at the distal end has a melting point 961 C, is apparent this temperature was reached as the silver appears to have moved by capillary action into the copper/copper oxide material and also appears to have been an effective brazing metal on the quartz, something it is known to do in common practice when making metal seals on quartz lab wear. All, or almost all, the copper was converted to copper oxide at 1000 C, this was not the case in a duplicate test at 800 C where considerable of the copper wire remained as metal though it was oxidized on the surface. The replication with power and thermal data may tell the tale, patience is going to be required before we might make sense of this miasma. Hopefully no one reports seeing the 'face of Jesus' in the miasma before the replication and more extensive data is in hand, that would really confuse matters. On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Russ <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: What’s to discuss other than perhaps something about the diagnostic incite offered by fervent practice of conflation. From: Alberto De Souza [mailto:alberto.investi...@gmail.com <mailto:alberto.investi...@gmail.com> ] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:57 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:LION experiments This forum is rather silent about the LION experiments, currently being examined by MFMP... Anyone care to comment? https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5518-mfmp-lfh-lion2-100-replication-well-beyond-lion1/?postID=81031#post81031
