Jack,
You are right-on about the input power having never been measured (or at least 
not reported) at the wall... which situation is all the more problematic since 
the input power is the one key feature - the defining feature of Godes' 
technique and "Q-pulse" IP, just as with all the other prior off-shoots of the 
"super-wave" of Dardik. 

Funny that most observers ignore Dardik and the crew at Mizzou -  who further 
pioneered the pulsed input technique - and who importantly observed slight gain 
in the range of COP of 1.5. That slight gain is a big deal in itself if and 
when it can be validated.

The crux of the matter: Since going from the wall to any kind of cell using 
structured electrical pulses is inherently lossy (as it means AC > DC > 
structured pulses), there is surely lower net gain from the wall than 
reported... but is it zero gain or does it confirm Dardik? 

And worst of all, since it is easy and obvious to measure power at the wall - 
this situation effectively means that real input was known and covered up by 
Godes - most likely to placate funders. IOW - one implication is that his 
continuing funding level depends on higher COP than say 1.5 - and he is not 
there. 

Yet from the standpoint of science - if there is any rock-solid net gain at all 
- it is important to know this. Slight gain would validate the superwave, if 
nothing else and refine our understanding of the limits of the LoT. There is a 
convincing level of validation for low gain in the literature - but WHY is it 
there and why is it strangely limited to ~ COP = 1.5 which turns up often to 
the extent that it appears to be a real limit? Coincidence or systemic error? 

As of now, no one can say for sure if there is some real gain or not from 
Godes, despite the competence of SRI and what is claimed to be a positive 
report, but which is really incomplete. SRI did not "replicate" or validate the 
experiment as many on the "fan boy" news-groups contend and were well-paid in 
the range of several million by Godes' funders to validate prior measurements 
by him, using his equipment. 

Thus, there is a bit of conflict of interest in the whole episode. And Dardik's 
superwave is still out there, as a mystery.

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    Jack Cole wrote:  
 At one time, I had high hopes for Godes.  The more I followed him, it became 
more evident that he and everyone else were enamored with his skills and 
credentials as an EE.  Neither he, nor others, are skeptical enough of his 
results to figure out what he has done wrong.  It probably wouldn't be that 
hard to disprove--simply measure input power at the wall before his generation 
of high voltage / frequency AC waveform.  Both he and others have assumed that 
he is such a good electrical engineer that he never could have made a mistake 
at measuring that power.  In the meantime, millions of dollars have potentially 
been wasted.  I remain happy to apologize and stand corrected should Godes or 
Tanzella of SRI say, "Look here, we measured input power at the wall."  He 
supposedly had this electrolysis system years ago that could give you a COP of 
2 years ago and could turn LENR on at will.  But in all this time, input power 
at the wall has never been reported.  
Jack
 Jed Rothwell  wrote::

https://coldfusionnow.org/cfnpodcast/

I was disappointed in this presentation. I think it is misguided. Godes' 
business strategy makes no sense. ...
  

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