Is it scam? I don't know, but I don't think it is the duty of an observer
to explain away such an incongrous statement when the statement is made by
someone who purports to be knowledgeable.

Harry


On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:21 PM Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

> This machine is surely an enigma but is it a scam? It does not seem to be.
>
> There is a possibility that the unit presently will function more as a UPS
> than a primary source of electrical power. Otherwise it makes no economic
> sense... other than being a scientific curiosity supplying "free energy" in
> a limited sense which ignores the capital cost. Here's why.
>
> Las Vegas has very low electricity rates 8+ cents/kwh thanks to a famous
> nearby dam. There is no way this device will save money to the customer
> unless they are practically giving the hardware away. It appears that the
> 25 kwh electrical energy represents the total energy storage capacity of
> the flywheel+magmo, when the unit is fully charged, not a continuous output.
>
> In fact, the continuous power output looks to be something in the range of
> 500 watts. IOW in a full year of operation, 24/7 it will only produce 4000
> kwh total (nominally free) energy for the year.
>
> Yet apparently that energy is indeed "free" in the sense of coming from
> magnets, confounding the experts and ignoring the overhead cost of the
> unit... i.e. unless... the present purpose was indeed different - and the
> plan is that it will to be used as a UPS backup... plus possibly... the
> customers have other incentives as well (stock?)
>
> IOW this unit's best useful purpose at present seems to be as a UPS backup
> since even if it did supply 500 watts continuously the value of that
> electricity would be about $170 bucks per year - so it is not going to save
> the planet at this stage of development, and the customer cannot benefit
> from it compared to regular utility rates. A further breakthrough seems to
> be needed.
>
> And given that it shouldn't even work at all - maybe that follow-on
> breakthrough is not farfetched as it seems.
>
> Who knows? Maybe the business plan is to get a few hundred of them out
> there as UPS systems and hope they can figure out how to boost the output
> considerably further down the road.
>
> Jones
>
> H LV wrote:
>
>   :-D  "two tens for a five"
> https://youtu.be/f7pMYHn-1yA
>
> Harry
>
> Terry Blanton wrote:
>
> 40 *kw* of mechanical *energy*
>
>
> uh-huh.  They sure know what they are talking about.
>
>

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