Andrew and Jones—

IMHO the main stream physics autocratic institution deserves the scorn that 
would come from publication of the table Jones is suggesting.

P. Hatt and W. Stubbs should be added to your list of alternate designers for 
nuclear physical modeling

Bob Cook

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From: Andrew Meulenberg <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 8:38:16 PM
To: VORTEX
Subject: Re: [Vo]:This could be an indication of "dense hydrogen" from 
solarorigin

Of course Dirac, Klein, and Gordon should head the list, since their 
relativistic QM equations started much of this over 80 years ago. While they 
were not snubbed, the deep-orbit electron level was certainly rejected by the 
mainstream.

You should add Jean-Luc Paillet to the list since he is confirming and 
improving the deep Dirac levels that Va'vra and Maly presented (along with 
those of Klein and Gordon) to the CMNS community in 1993 - 1995.

Jon Naudts, in 2005, proposed the deep-electron orbit for CF based on the 
Klein-Gordon (relativistic Schrodinger) equation for spinless particles. 
Including spin (via the Dirac equations) only changed the binding energy of 
these orbits by ~ 2 keV. Every decade since 1959 has someone publishing on the 
deep-electron orbits of the Dirac and/or Klein-Gordon equations. Just as 
regularly, the mainstream pushed the idea down to preserve the status quo.

Schwinger was also "scorned" when he proposed that nuclear energy could be 
shared with bound electrons since this could lead to deeper orbits and fusion.
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On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:11 PM JonesBeene 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

How low can you go?

Picometers are so passe’…

The $64 question… what is the densest of the dense?

Has anyone ever put together a table which lists the various theories of dense 
hydrogen and also lists the diameter of the densest species supported by the 
theory?

This could be an opportune time to start such a table.

Here are some names that come to find who have written specifically on dense 
hydrogen with size estimates. Please provide corrections and additions.

It is fully realized that a few of these researchers have provided far more 
effort and insight than others, not to mention many more publications.

But this is not a contest, yet it is intriguing to me that most of this is high 
quality work – yet still snubbed by the mainstream.


Randell Mills
A.O Barut
Leif Holmlid
Nabil Lawandy
Jerry Vavra
Yoshiaki Arata
Friedwardt Winterberg
Cerofolini
Andrew Meulenberg
F.J. Mayer
George Miley
Jacque Dufour
Horace Heffner
Robin van Spaandonk
Jürg Wyttenbach

And others to be added///

The next column would be the  smallest version of proton bound to an electron 
in picometers/femtometers.

Other relevant columns should be added.

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