--- Grimer wrote: > I'm not quite sure what you're torquing about, Jones, but I found the swing bit so interesting that I actually googled to find exactly how it worked. <g>
Sounds like "allure" to me, Frank ... as in "a lure" of the "fishy" variety ... and since I've no clue to what angle you ... (the angler)... are casting, let me add that there is an interesting bit of simple and related info online about resonance, pendulums and swings. http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/reson.html#resdef ... which offers up another possibility (resonance) for tossing into the mix for a hybrid "self-runner" ... a hybrid of a pendulum with a pure pulsed rotor - using the ramp-and-release EM mechanics of Sprain/Takahishi. Both pendulums and flywheels are efficient in terms of storing energy, of course, but only the pendulum has the strong gravity-connection. Horace Heffner has posted some thoughts on a unification of gravity and magnetism, suggesting that perhaps some effort can be given to finding even the slightest asymmetry there. It is very difficult to design an electric motor over 98% efficient. The CISIRO motors used in the Solar Car races are about 98.5% efficient at their best speed - but any old pendulum can get a full percent higher at resonance, and once you know what the resonant period is - then you can design a mechanical crank of exact dimension to mate this period to a rotary device. I suspect that IF there is even a half a percent of asymmetry in any kind of gravi-magnetic phenomenon - that would be enough for self-power of a hybrid of this type. That is about as close to 'perpetual motion' as one can hope for in a manufactured device. Actually one does not even have to convert the pendulum motion into rotary in order to apply the ramp-and-release mechanism - as you can do that direct to the bob. No - that kind of show-boating will not solve the energy crisis directly - but as many observers besides me have been shouting for some time - Give us one rock-solid OU device and you will see the floodgates of high-level funding open up ! It is somewhat of a psychological dilemma now because of these Laws being nearly sacrosanct - and that is all the physics that most politicians know, especially those from the oil-patch ... As of now, there is nothing beyond innuendo and anecdote about possible violations of the laws of thermodynamics which many of us have witnessed first hand - yet once any such Law is violated by a robust self-powered 'perpetual motion' kind of gimmick - even if it is a toy - then voila - IT'S A WHOLE NEW BALLGAME - at least in terms of inventors obtaining adequate funding for some of these neglected and scorned technologies, which we toss around daily here. Even LENR would benefit - even though it is totally unrelated (and stands on firmer theoretical ground). Now... that is one heck of a lure.... with what some will call an equally big fish story... Jones

