--- Grimer wrote:

> I'm not quite sure what you're torquing about, 
Jones, but I found the swing bit so interesting that I
 actually googled to find exactly how it worked.  <g>

Sounds like "allure" to me, Frank ... as in "a lure"
of the "fishy" variety ... and since I've no clue to
what angle you ... (the angler)... are casting, let me
add that there is an interesting bit of simple and
related info online about resonance, pendulums and
swings.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/reson.html#resdef


... which offers up another possibility (resonance)
for tossing into the mix for a hybrid "self-runner"
... a hybrid of a pendulum with a pure pulsed rotor -
using the ramp-and-release EM mechanics of
Sprain/Takahishi. 

Both pendulums and flywheels are efficient in terms of
storing energy, of course, but only the pendulum has
the strong gravity-connection. Horace Heffner has
posted some thoughts on a unification of gravity and
magnetism, suggesting that perhaps some effort can be
given to finding even the slightest asymmetry there.

It is very difficult to design an electric motor over
98% efficient. The CISIRO motors used in the Solar Car
races are about 98.5% efficient at their best speed -
but any old pendulum can get a full percent higher at
resonance, and once you know what the resonant period
is - then you can design a mechanical crank of exact
dimension to mate this period to a rotary device. I
suspect that IF there is even a half a percent of
asymmetry in any kind of gravi-magnetic phenomenon -
that would be enough for self-power of a hybrid of
this type. That is about as close to 'perpetual
motion' as one can hope for in a manufactured device.
Actually one does not even have to convert the
pendulum motion into rotary in order to apply the
ramp-and-release mechanism - as you can do that direct
to the bob.

No - that kind of show-boating will not solve the
energy crisis directly - but as many observers besides
me have been shouting for some time - Give us one
rock-solid OU device and you will see the floodgates
of high-level funding open up !

It is somewhat of a psychological dilemma now because
of these Laws being nearly sacrosanct -  and that is
all the physics that most politicians know, especially
those from the oil-patch ... As of now, there is
nothing beyond innuendo and anecdote about possible
violations of the laws of thermodynamics which many of
us have witnessed first hand - yet once any such Law
is violated by a robust self-powered 'perpetual
motion' kind of gimmick - even if it is a toy - then
voila - IT'S A WHOLE NEW BALLGAME - at least in terms
of inventors obtaining adequate funding for some of
these neglected and scorned technologies, which we
toss around daily here. Even LENR would benefit - even
though it is totally unrelated (and stands on firmer
theoretical ground).

Now... that is one heck of a lure.... with what some
will call an equally big fish story...

Jones

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