Bob

Neutrinos are the standard excuse for SM physics having no clue about nuclear structure. Billions of neutrinos pass your body every second. If they would do any interaction such patents possibly would not be written...

Parkhomov's Rossi style experiments (COP 2-4) did behave as expected: Given a well know amount of Nickel it delivered, after full burn down, the expected 2MeV/Ni. Not much space for neutrinos.

Phrases like "low energy neutrinos" are nonsense as long as physics has no clue about their real mass & structure and even doesn't know whether they have a rest mass.

We, since some time, pretty much understand how LENR works and what needs to be done to enable it. We understand how the LENR energy transport works and of course not with neutrinos - it's magnetic transport of energy.

J.W.


Am 26.09.19 um 10:42 schrieb bobcook39...@hotmail.com:

Jed--

I tend to agree with you and MF conclusion regarding the primary LOCAL effect of the Pd-D system.

HOWEVER, I consider that neutrinos are involved in nuclear structures made up of electrons, positrons and neutrinos –both types.   anti and regular.

Thus, depending upon the resonant matching of the coherent system energy, most or  much energy may escape  the system without causing much heat in the form of phonic lattice excitement of the coherent system energy state transition during a LENR.

This notion reflects a general lack of knowledge regarding the physics of neutrinos and its validation.  The following link addresses some of this lack of knowledge, most important being experimental validation IMHO.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/718/6/062076/pdf

The US Patent application: https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Yanming+Wei <https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Yanming+Wei>

was also considered in understanding neutrino  physics validation and low energy neutrino focusing by certain nuclear isomeric species.

Bob Cook

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*From:* Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2019 8:59:47 PM
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*Subject:* [Vo]:Uploaded LANL. Workshop on Cold Fusion Phenomena. 1989
LANL. Workshop on Cold Fusion Phenomena. 1989. Santa Fe, NM: Los Alamos National Laboratory

Program Committee, Agenda and Abstracts

https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LANLworkshopon.pdf

This shows that there was a lot of support for cold fusion research at the DoE initially. A number of these abstracts list DoE grants. In retrospect, I wish they had spread out their support, allocating money in the years that followed, when more was understood. There were a number of researchers here doing the wrong things. Especially, people looking for nuclear effects without first confirming there was excess heat. Without measurable excess heat, there is probably no cold fusion. As Fleischmann said, heat is principal signature of the reaction.


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