Jones—

Its “Tit for Tat” or “Quid Pro Quo” as some would have it.  😊

Maybe even the “Word” is all that is.  Words are not real—kinda-like 
information with a sole stemming from the speaker’s mind.

Any natural law of the universes is non-real and is equal to “the truth”—“the 
Word”.  This information is an abstraction, and within  the batch of 
abstractions labeled theologies-- this one about natural laws is called 
pantheism.  Einstein was said to harbor pantheistic ideas.

The idea first seemed to be recorded as information by the Greeks and may have 
influenced Jesus’s non-materialistic ideas as well.

Regarding mass—Jurg’s SO(4) physics explains that mass is associated with the 
rotation of magnetic flux—close to the idea of a rotating magnetic field on a 
toroidal surface with a femtometer order of size in familiar 3-d space.

Bob Cook

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From: JonesBeene<mailto:jone...@pacbell.net>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2020 6:32 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: RE: [Vo]:There is no dark matter. Instead, information has mass, 
physicist says

From: Terry Blanton<mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com>

bigthink.com<http://bigthink.com>:
https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/dark-matter-theory

This is a very provocative idea – that information has actual mass…guess that 
is why it is featured on a site called “the big think”…

The concept also relates to LENR in a back door way – since Holmlid suggests 
that matter can be  completely annihilated or turned into energy. Is this the 
modern version of “book burning”??

The author of the piece, Philip Perry did not claim exactly  that dark matter 
or the black hole is a repository of information, but that is the implication. 
OTOH another article by Philip suggests that Jesus (yes, that Jesus) used 
Cannabis for some of his miracle cures. This kind of lateral thinking made me 
want to immediately sign up to get the blog until I noticed how many trackers 
it had already tried to install.

Anyway, there is a pregnant thought from Wheeler is particularly resonant:

“There was perhaps no greater proponent of information theory than another 
unsung paragon of science, John Archibald 
Wheeler<https://futurism.com/john-wheelers-participatory-universe>. Wheeler was 
part of the Manhattan Project, worked out the "S-Matrix" with Niels Bohr and 
helped Einstein develop a unified theory of physics. In his later years, he 
proclaimed, "Everything is information." Then he went about exploring 
connections between quantum mechanics and information theory….He also coined 
the phrase "it from bit" or that every particle in the universe emanates from 
the information locked inside it. At the Santa Fe Institute in 1989, Wheeler 
announced that everything, from particles to forces to the fabric of spacetime 
itself "… derives its function, its meaning, its very existence entirely … from 
the apparatus-elicited answers to yes-or-no questions, binary choices, 
bits<https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/why-information-cant-be-the-basis-of-reality/>."
 END quote.

Too bad the website itself  has not been designed to honor privacy concerns or 
to  function well on Firefox browser. Makes one wonder if MS/Google did not 
insert the background trackers as a tit for tat … which is kind of ironic, 
given the subject matter.



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