Well 222nm-ish (220nm for sure) LED's are possible as are higher frequencies also. But they aren't available commercially as far as I can tell, but they have been made.
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 07:32, Michael Foster <mf...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Yes, 254 nm is an excellent virus killer. However, unlike 222 nm, long > term exposure to 254 nm can cause damage to the eyes and skin. As Jonathan > Berry points out 222 nm won't even penetrate the water film on your eyes. > > I still like my idea of a baseball cap with a small xenon chloride > excimer bulb attached to the underside of the bill. Sounds silly, sort of > "Tom Swift and his Amazing Virus Killing Hat", but it might be more > effective than masks. As long as the visible wavelengths can be filtered > out to keep the light from being annoying, it could kill the viruses before > being inhaled and also from penetrating through the eyes. I'd much rather > wear such a contraption than a mask. > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 05:40:09 PM UTC, Terry Blanton < > hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > UVGI uses 254 nm...readily available. > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4699414/ > > https://smile.amazon.com/Type-watt-UV-C-Germicidal-Replacement/dp/B007NW9WFW > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:21 PM Jonathan Berry < > jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote: > The harm from the virus is significant and lasting for many even if it > does not kill.Also Corona viruses, well there has never been a successful > vaccine for a corona virus and immunity seems not to be lasting. > Indeed about a 3rd of those who have had it seem not to have notable > levels of antibodies. > So herd immunity is really untenable, it needs to be stopped, not easy, > but the only way it's not just going to keep on hitting humanity again and > again with what seem to be at the most optimistic to be a roughly 1% > fatality rate. > I have found two US manufacturers of 222nm bulbs, not sure though that > either have enough output. > Good to know it's krypton chloride, wasn't aware. > On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 04:35, Michael Foster <mf...@yahoo.com> wrote: > This is a really good idea. Fortunately, the U.S. can supply its own > krypton. 222 nm lamps are krypton chloride excimer bulbs. Maybe we can wise > up and make the lamps in the United States. I doubt that any are made here > now. I know this sounds ridiculous at the moment, but what if a baseball > cap could be made with a small excimer lamp on the under side of the bill. > This certainly isn't impossible what with all the really compact high > voltage supplies that are made now. I doubt if making large numbers of > excimer bulbs would have much of an effect on the price of krypton as > rather large amounts are used in double pane windows at near atmospheric > pressure. The krypton chloride bulbs, conversely, use small amounts a low > pressure. > > > > OTOH, all of this prevention simply delays people being exposed to the > virus and thus delaying the herd immunity. The original premise of this > absurd lock down was to "flatten the curve" and prevent hospitals from > being overwhelmed. This exercise in totalitarian despotism was based on > faulty computer models like most of our predictions of doom lately. The > overall death rate in the U.S. is down somewhat from previous years, > meaning that the people who supposedly succumbed to the Wuhan virus would > probably have died of something else in the same time period. Given the > practice of reporting deaths of the elderly as from covid19 whether or not > that was the known cause no doubt inflates the numbers substantially. > > > > Influenza deaths will probably exceed the deaths caused by the corona > virus this year. This is just a guess on my part, probably more accurate > that the latest computer models. But we all just love to panic don't we? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:10:48 PM UTC, Jonathan Berry < > jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You are sort of missing the point though! > > The point is that 222nm UVC light kills the virus (however ironic that > might be with HV corona emitting UV) and this 222nm UV is safe, not harmful! > > It doesn't even get through to live skin cells or even through the water > film on your eye. > > But it destroys the virus in the air and on surfaces. > > On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 08:41, Jürg Wyttenbach <ju...@datamart.ch> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Very good new from California. > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only 1 out of 50 infected does get > > symptoms!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Fairly consistent > > research results showing increased rate of leukemias near high > > voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR > > can cause it. > > > > > > > > You should not live to close to such > > transmission lines due to high magnetic fields. > > > > > > > > Leukemia (in > > children) is also slightly increased in a radius up to 20 miles > > from a nuclear plant. > > > > > > > > > > > > J.W. > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 18.04.20 um 21:17 schrieb ChemE > > Stewart: > > > > > > > > > > > > Damp conditions, dew buildup, pollution and > > damage to insulators/lines all reduce the local breakdown > > voltage. The strong electric field is ionizing N2 and O2 in > > the air and producing ozone and NOx which by themselves are > > not healthy long term. The ionization is also releasing broad > > spectrum electromagnetic pollution from high frequency UVc > > down to low frequency radio noise. It is most likely the high > > frequency UV range doing the cellular damage over time nearby. > > > > > > > > > > Fairly consistent research results showing > > increased rate of leukemias near high voltage transmission lines > > but little evidence low frequency EMR can cause it. I expect it > > is the high frequency UV spectrum and it is dependent upon local > > weather and line conditions. > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.webmd.com/cancer/lymphoma/news/20050602/child-leukemia-again-linked-to-power-lines > > > > > > > > If special UVc cameras are detecting the radiation > > that implies it is reaching the lens/ground & biology > > > > > > > > > > https://youtu.be/NsSXjFMHIuU > > > > > > > > > > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8727300 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:11 > > PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <bobcook39...@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I > > had a friend who lived for 30 years with high > > voltage transmission lines at the edge of his > > property in Spokane County. He died about 6 or 7 > > years ago from two separate cancers. His son who > > lived with him in his home (30 years his junior) > > also died of cancer within a month of his father. > > All the cancers were of different types. > > > > > > > > > > > > My > > friend would comment how the lines would > > crackle > > in humid conditions. I always assumed it was steam > > explosions of small water droplets. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus > > a strange noise associated with transmission lines > > may also deter the movement of large animals. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob > > Cook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from > > Mail for Windows 10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: > > ChemE > > Stewart > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:23 AM > > > > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > > > > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! > > And the next one... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time elapse UV emissions from > > high voltage transmission lines. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/763-power-lines-in-uv/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Broad spectrum UV light > > pollution is a common occurrence on exposed high > > voltage systems and unhealthy long term to biology > > at much of the UVA,UVB and UVC range > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fortunately it only occurs when > > air is damp, pollution builds up on > > lines/insulators, insulators/lines are > > cracked/damaged, or bird crap...which is much of > > the time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scares the shit out of reindeer > > also and has led to Santa re-routing delivery > > routes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://slate.com/technology/2014/03/power-lines-and-animals-flashing-uv-light-scares-reindeer.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:34 > > AM Jonathan Berry <jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Solution, 222nm UVC light > > to sterilize the air, surfaces, skin, masks, > > clothing in supermarkets, on the street, > > everywhere! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jürg Wyttenbach > > Bifangstr.22 > > 8910 Affoltern a.A. > > 044 760 14 18 > > 079 246 36 06 > >
