Michel Jullian wrote:
>
> Mmm, but then the torus or washer diameter of the free electron would
depend 
> on the diameter of the orbit it comes from so there would be several
types 
> of free electrons, of various diameters...

Of special interest, Michel is when the radioactive nucleus ejects an
electron
in Beta minus decay, or absorbs a K shell electron.

In order to fit into the nuclear  (neutron) diameter hc/(0.33*Eneutron) from
it's rest diameter hc/(Ee-) it has to shrink by as much as 600 times it's
rest diameter.
The opposite occurs for positron (Beta +) emission.

My approach on this is to treat mvr = h/2(pi) of the electron and the three
"loops/disk" particles in the proton as interacting "electromagnetic
flywheels"
that share energy/mass and change diameter through electromagnetic energy
exchange, thus conserving energy and momentum. Mechanically analogous to
coupling a stationary flywheel to one that is rotating.
>
> It seems to me the warped washer or torus shape only makes sense when 
> orbiting around a nucleus, where it would nicely replace a location 
> probability distribution for a point charge by a continuous charge cloud
of 
> the same shape and density distribution.
A good point, but remember that the electron diameter  ~ 2.436e-12 meters
is about 22 times smaller than the 5.29e-11 meter Bohr Radius giving it
room for
rattling around.

>
> A worm or corkscrew shape might be 
> more universal as it could go straight when flying across a CRT tube, and 
> curve itself around its orbit when orbiting.

20 to 30 KeV energy in a CRT pales in comparison to the 510 KeV
rest mass/energy of the electron. No?
>
> What would be wrong with a more classical looking ball shape BTW?

The classical visualization based on solar system models doesn't square with
the moment of inertia ( I ) doesn't fit mvr = h/2(pi) = (I)* 2(pi)f

Although close, not close enough if you're a purest:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_moments_of_inertia

Best

Fred
>
> Michel
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 7:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Toroidal electron
>
>
> > Michel Jullian writes.
> >>
> >> A question, what does the torus or washer shape turn into once the
> > electron
> >> breaks free of its nucleus?
> >
> > It should retain it's "shape" as evidenced by smashing into the
> > phosphor of your TV picture tube over and over, Michel.
>



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