Michel Jullian writes: > > > If it exists it could be a major player in the quest for producing useful > > energy from Hot or Cold Fusion.. > > Ah now this talks to me ;) > > Thanks Fred for the explanations, I am afraid I am an ignoramus in particle > physics but I am willing to learn. > > 1/ What is the difference between (*e-) and Ps- exactly? They seem to be > both composed of a positron and two electrons, why should one be more > stable? That is the question begging an answer, Michel. Under the right conditions the Ps- could form into a stable "Triad" particle. In chemistry some reactions go to completion while some don't. > > 2/ Why should the mass of the Electronium be twice that of the electron and > not thrice (e- e+ e-)? I imagine the mass default corresponds to a binding > energy, but what kind of force would this be, surely not nuclear since we're > not talking about nucleons? A mass 2 x electron mass (*e-) would be the rest mass result of a binding energy loss equivalent to the mass of an electron ie., 510 kev or the energy of three 170 kev photons. Most likely the mass would be more than twice and less than thrice.
Fred > > Michel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "vortex-l" <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 12:44 PM > Subject: Re: Coby CX1 TV Modification for (*e-) Electronium Search > > > > Michel Jullian wrote. > >> > >>Tsss, watching TV too much and too close ;) > >> > >> Nice experiment, even though I haven't understood what you were looking > >> for. > >> > > Valid question Michel. > > About a year ago I proposed that Positronium formed by momentary coupling > > of > > a positron and electron rather than annihilating into a pair of 0.51 MeV > > photons might couple > > to an electron from any atom and form a stable "Triad" (e- e+ e-) aka > > Electronium or (*e-) > > giving off 3 photons of about 170 KeV each (which might be mistaken for > > 3-photon > > positron-electron annihilation and end as a stable/elusive particle with a > > mass about > > 2+ that of "ordinary" electrons. > > > > Since then I found that there is a lot going on in the area of research > > into the recently observed > > Positronium Ion Ps- giving pause for one to wonder if the proposed stable > > (*e-) is being missed. > > > > > > This experiment at the Max Planck Institute shows a setup for creating Ps- > > and > > use of germanium detector for looking at annihilation photons but doesn't > > specify > > their energy. Could the observed three-photon electron-positron > > annihilation actually > > be formation (the mass defect binding energy) of (*e-)? > > > > If so electronium could be ubiquitous in nature, albeit in small numbers > > wrt electrons > > > > If it exists it could be a major player in the quest for producing useful > > energy from Hot or Cold Fusion.. > > > > Fred > > > > http://www.mpi-hd.mpg.de/ato/psminus/ > > "The object of our studies is one of these simple systems: the Positronium > > negative ion. This exotic entity is a bound state of a positron and two > > electrons. It is similar to the negative ion of hydrogen (H-). In fact, it > > is the most simple three body problem imaginable. Its constituents are > > pointlike particles (at least to the best of our knowledge) and there are > > no pertubations due to strong interactions to be considered. There has > > been quite a lot of theoretical activity around Ps- but there is not much > > known experimentally. Only one experiment can be found in the literature: > > A.P. Mills observed the Positronium negative ion experimentally and made a > > first lifetime measurement. With an error of about 4% it is not > > sufficiently precise to allow for a test a QED effects. A new measurement > > of the lifetime with improved precision is the first objective of this > > project." > > "To measure the spectra a Germanium detector at the temperature of liquid > > nitrogen detects the ? radiation from the decays of the positronium and > > positronium ion."
